[楼工团·圣城JRs之声]马刺&勇士赛后:库明加铁肘退双塔,马三崩变身马四崩

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圣安东尼奥马刺又又……又一次倒在了比赛的最后时刻,在第三节大比分领先的情况下,第四节再次被逆转,主场不敌金州勇士,“马三崩”变成了“马四崩”。然而,除了末节崩盘之外,比赛还有其他值得玩味的地方:如果,珀尔特尔和兰代尔没有被库明加肘击退场(直接脑震荡,下场均休战);如果,普尔的走步(虽然,虎扑消息可以忽略裁判报告,但刺区、勇区和湿乎乎都可见)裁判不是视而不见……当然,输球的主要原因还在于马刺年轻阵容的不成熟,但是审视自身,总结教训,不代表人善被人欺。我们搬运了海外马刺JRs的言论,删除了一些过激的言论,力求实事求是。


Regular Season: The Golden State Warriors (39-13) defeat The San Antonio Spurs (19-33) 124-120

[赛后]常规赛:金州勇士(39-13)以124-120击败圣安东尼奥马刺(19-33)



Our guys clearly blew this one, so no real excuses, but that no call travel is one of the worst I’ve ever watched

我们的球员显然(最后一节)搞砸了,所以没有什么借口,但是那个走步不吹真的是我见过最离谱的吹罚之一



pop playing kbd at center didn’t help

波波让贝茨-迪奥普来打中锋显然没有什么用


You can thank Kuminga for swining his arms around like a helicopter

你可以感谢库明加像直升机一样挥舞着他的铁肘


Thanks Kuminga. You ruined the whole fucking game with your MMA shit

得感谢库明加。他的综合格斗表演毁掉了整场比赛。


He's basically a supersized Russell Westbrook who is incredibly clumsy. Very annoying player already.

他基本上就是一个放大版的威斯布鲁克,笨拙得令人难以置信。他已经是很令人厌烦的球员了。


Seriously, im surprised no one got more injured, refs swallowed the whistle completely.

说真的,我很惊讶没有人受到更严重的伤害,裁判完全视而不见。


Game ball goes to Jonathan Kuminga for ensuring the Spurs didn't have paint protection for half of the game.

比赛用球应该给库明加,是他确保了马刺在下半场篮下不设防。



What's funny is the play before Kuminga injured Jakob on, he committed an obvious charge against Jakob that they didn't call. Dude probably fouled like 9 times tonight

有趣的是,在库明加击伤泊头之前,他就对泊头就有过一个明显的侵犯,而裁判根本没有吹哨。这家伙今晚可能犯了9次规。


Exactly. Not gonna lie, I wish we had one or two enforcers these days (like Kuminga was tonight for with no provocation for his unprovoked flagrant-foul attacks on the Spurs for the Warriors).

Never thought I'd look back fondly on our Dennis Rodman years lol, but I see egregious flagrant fouls like that from Kuminga am like wtf? Remember when Davis Bertans played the role of enforcer?

完全正确。说实话,我希望我们现在能有一两个这种“打手”(像今晚的库明加一样,在毫无挑衅的情况下,为勇士向马刺进行无端的明目张胆的攻击)

从没想过我会如此深情地怀念拥有丹尼斯-罗德曼的日子,哈哈,但我看到来自库明加的那种令人震惊的明目张胆的犯规,我***!还记得戴维斯-贝尔坦斯所扮演的打手的角色吗?(贝尔坦斯在16年对阵雄鹿的比赛中,为被恶意犯规的队友出头)


We also have more than 2 bigs on the roster who were active.

我们的名单里其实还有超过两名内线可以使用


thad eubanks and hernangomez were right there, why are people acting like the whole squad was out?

赛迪斯-杨、尤班克斯和埃尔南戈麦斯其实都在名单上,为什么球队要用完全的小个阵容?(也许是怕某人把剩下的也给肘了)


Eubanks was out after another aggressive uncalled foul from Kuminga. No real idea why they won't put Thad in, but I'm guessing he's pissed off Pop so much with his attitude and statements that Pop would rather lose than play him. Probably should have tried Hernangomez rather than have a guard at the 5 there for a while, but that lineup worked for a bit.

尤班被库明加又一次没有被吹罚的犯规给搞下去了。我不知道为什么不让杨出场,我猜他的态度和言语激怒了波波,波波宁可输球也不愿让他上场。也许可以尝试一下埃尔南戈麦斯,也许会比让一名后卫来打五号位更好。


I like hustle and aggressive play, but Kuminga was dirty tonight.

我喜欢看有对抗和倾略性的比赛,但是库明加今晚打得也太脏了。


Both teams played their asses off. Just a young team that needs to learn how to close out games. Went over 4 minutes without scoring before Murray took over then a bad bounce lead to an open 3.

两队打得都很努力。这支年轻球队需要学会如何来收割比赛。在默里站出来之前,球队有4分钟没有得分,然后一个糟糕的的地板球让对手命中了一记空位三分。


Worst loss of the season

本赛季最糟糕的失利


It's dejavu. We lost to the pistons and houston the same way. We're legit tanking

这一幕似曾相识。我们以同样的方式输给过活塞和休斯敦。我们摆烂摆得很逼真。


That Detroit loss was worse.

That game was truly guys on 10 days and G league guys. This game has a lot of rotation players and high drafted rookies who knows Golden states playbook.

Detroit was just guys who hustled more and played smarter. Like they had a pick up team versus us.

在底特律的那场失利更糟糕

那场比赛的对手都是由10天短合同和发展联盟球员拼凑的。而这场比赛勇士还有不少的轮换球员和了解球队战术的高顺位新秀。

底特律那一次,对手只是打得更努力,更聪明。像是他们在和我们竞争选秀顺位


It was worse on paper. Losing to a 6 win team. But situationally this L was way worse. Up 16 in the 4th is a terrible loss.

输给一支只有6胜的球队,从理论上来说更糟。但是第四节领先16分输掉比赛是一场可怕的失利。


Firstly, worst loss of the season so far.

Secondly, this is how you tank!

首先,这是本赛季目前为止最惨痛的失利。

其次,摆烂摆得不错啊!


Falling apart against the Suns similarly in the 4th quarter when we had a big lead after thr 3rd was almost as bad. But you may be right, GSW didn't have a single regular starter starting to ight and we just blew it. This was a hard one to watch.

当我们在第三节取得巨大领先时,同样的情况出现在对阵太阳的第四节比赛,太糟糕了。但是你可能是对的,勇士没有一个常规的首发球员,而我们搞砸了。这是一场令人难以接受的比赛。


There is nothing on God’s green earth that I want more than a top 3 pick in the draft. If this is the way then this is the way.

在这世上我最想要的就是前三的选秀签。如果能拿到就这样输也无妨。


and pray we get a one of kind generational talent

祈祷我们能得到一位旷世奇才


Unfortunately it’s not the way because even with these shitty losses, we’re not on pace to outtank the Rockets, Pistons, Thunder or Magic

不幸的是,情况并非如此,即使有这些糟糕的失利,我们依然摆不过火箭、活塞、雷霆和魔术。


Kuminga had what should have been two flagrant fouls, but at the end of the day we're just not playing good overall defense.

For a team whose motto was "defense wins Championships" to win 5 of them, our defensive rotations just suck and that's why we really lost this game.

库明加本应该得到两个恶意犯规,但是在今天比赛的最后,我们的整体防守并不好。

对于一支以“防守赢得总冠军”为座右铭的球队来说,我们的轮转防守太糟糕了,这才是我们输掉这场比赛的真正原因。



EXACTLY!!

the defense has been so bad. It seems like certain players get mixed up of forget what to do consistently and then some players help too much so then trying to recover to their open man is always super late

Jakob helps cover a lot of issues but when he is out you can really see how bad a lot of guys are.

完全正确!

防守太差了。似乎有些球员脑子已经短路了,忘记了该坚持的防守策略,而有些又协防过度了,所以想回防到自己的空位总是为时已晚。

泊头的协防掩盖了很多问题,但当他不在的时候,你可以看到很多人的防守有多糟。


Just thinking about the time KBD blew out the Lakers in their final Staples Center game. This is how I find peace.

只要想想迪奥普在斯台普斯重心的最后一场比赛是如何蹂躏湖人的。我的心情就会慢慢平复下来。


Most losses, I don’t mind, we aren’t generally the favorite….

But this game…. Fucking the best player on GSW was Poole and we blew a good lead…. It’s infuriating. Hopefully they show some fucking pride next game, cause they sure as hell didn’t tonight.

大多数的失利,我并不介意,我们似乎总是不受待见的……

但是这场比赛……勇士出场的最好的球员是普尔,而我们又葬送了一个巨大的领先……这不能不让人升起。希望下一场比赛球队能够打出精气神,反正今晚他们肯定没有做到。


Yeah I haven't really minded most losses this season and I respect the tank, but we actually blew a 17 point lead in the fourth to the Warriors G-Squad. Fuck this!

是的,我真的不介意本赛季的大部分失利,而且我尊重摆烂,但是我们实际上在第四节把17分的优势拱手让给了勇士的发展联盟队。去***!


I can't decide which is worse: blowing a 15 points lead in the 4th against the Santa Cruz Warriors or having half the stadium cheering for them. Just fuck terrible all around.

我不知道哪个更糟:是在第四节面对圣克鲁斯勇士队(勇士的发展联盟球队)葬送15分的领先优势,还是让半个场馆的球迷都为他们欢呼。到处都***糟糕透勒。


The Lakers and Warriors have fans everywhere

Every court is their homecourt

湖人和勇士的球迷到处都是

每块场地都是他们的主场


I was watching from my laptop and I wasn't sure if the cheering when GSW was artificial of not because it was way too damn loud... Was it legit??

我当时正在用笔记本看比赛,我不确定当时的欢呼声是不是为勇士的,因为太吵了……这合理吗?


I was at the game. It was unreal how many Warriors jerseys were in the stands. That dunk was legit the loudest cheer of the game.

我就在现场。看台上有那么多穿勇士球衣的,太不真实了。那个扣篮才是比赛中欢呼声最高的时刻。


When GSW tied the game i thought i was watching in the GSW arena with the crowd booming

当勇士追平的时候,我以为自己是处在勇士的主场看球,观众席上一片喧哗。


How many games do we have to lose in the 4th qtr? Well with a team still trying to find their identity, this is what happens. No one to consistently go to that can handle the pressure of close close games

我们还会在多少比赛中输掉第四节?这支球队还在努力寻找自己的定位,所以难以避免。没有人能够应付焦灼的比赛最后的压力。


Were like 3-12 in games within 5 Points now lmao. It's straight up embarrassing we haven't improved at that.

5分以内的比赛我们3胜12负,哈哈。我们在这方面毫无进步,真的很尴尬。


Lol, somebody in the game thread as second half started said something like "here comes the turd quarter", and that did used to be our weakness, but now it's even worse being up well at the end of the 3rd and then just collapsing in the 4th.

在下半场开始的时候,有人就放言“马三崩来啦”,这曾经是我们的软肋,但现在更糟糕的是我们在第三节结束的时候表现还不错,然后成了“马四崩”。



I badly want a top 3 pick. All I ask for is the pick and 26 wins for Pop, that’s literally it

我非常想要前三选秀签。我所要求的就是选秀签和波波的26胜,仅此而已。


Here I was worried we'd go and do something stupid like beating a reserve team and ruining the tank.

我原本还担心我们会做些蠢事,譬如胖揍预备队和放弃摆烂。


They really don’t want Pop to get that record 😂

他们真的不想为波波赢得记录吗?


Kuminga dominated without poeltl

没有了珀尔特尔,库明加统治了比赛


This game highlights

how vital Jak is to our game

how shit our backup bigs are

Argument can be made that Jak is actually more important than Murray given our roster construction.

这场比赛充分强调了

泊头在当下对我们的重要性

我们的替补内线是多么的烂

考虑到我们的阵容结构,可以认为泊头实际上比默里更重要


half of our backup bigs didnt even see the floor

我们一半的内线球员甚至不配有上场机会


Exactly. Cos they're shit.

Only hope is a man who's barely played in 2 years so fingers crossed he gets and stays healthy

完全正确。他们就是一坨屎。

唯一的希望是一个两年多来几乎没打过球的人(扎克-科林斯),祈祷他能够保持健康


Losses like this help a team move forward and become better. Not like we were gonna make a run this year anyway, just enjoy these last games and enjoy getting to see Pop on the sideline. Who knows how much longer we will get that tbh

这样的失利会帮助一支球队前进,变得更好。反正我们今年也不会走得太远,好好享受这些最后的比赛,享受波波在场边的感觉。谁知道我们还要等多久。


no way you’re justifying this loss? this was santa cruz warriors

你不觉得这样的失利很丢人吗?这可是圣克鲁斯勇士队


Don't discredit the players on the other team, that's fucked. They played better than we did (and tbh got away with a ridiculous travel at the end of the game), but losses like these help a team in the long run.

不要诋毁对方的球员,那无济于事。他们打得比我们好(比赛末尾的走步未吹是可笑的),但从长远来看,这样的失利对球队是有帮助的。


Games and hurtful losses like this in a rebuild year help teach our youngins that they can't stop competing in the 4th quarter. And that defense is important, that moving around in defensive rotations and overall defense is vital to stop the other team from coming back. Lesson learned hopefully.

在重建之年,这样的比赛和和伤害性的失利教会了我们的年轻人,他们不能在第四节放松。而防守是极其重要的,在轮转防守和整体防守的移动对于组织对手的反扑是至关重要的。希望能吸取教训。



this is what you get when you're not respecting opponents no matter what who you gonna play against. had 17 pt lead, won first 3 quarter but stopped playing in the 4. I know we gotta be patient because of the rebuilding but it's very tiring them blowing every lead.

这就是不尊重对手的结果,无论你面对什么样的对手。手握17分的领先,赢了三节,却在第四节输掉比赛。我知道我们得耐心,因为正处于重建,但是每一次领先都搞砸了真的很让人心累。


Past couple of games I checked the score in the 3q thinking we had it in the bag, then I get that postgame notification 😔

在过去的几场比赛里,我在第三节看到比分的时候都以为我们赢定了,然后我收到了赛后的战报……


What’s really frustrating with this team is it’s certain players that obviously forget or get confused on what they should be doing defensively.

Every game we play switch everything (besides on a center/real big when it’s a pick & roll) and it’s still guys who forget to switch and leave a person open.

Damn near every game it consistently happens.

这支球队真正令人沮丧的是,某些球员明显忘记了或者根本搞不清自己应该在防守端做些什么。

每场比赛,我们执行换防的策略(除了在有一名中锋或者真正的内线防挡拆时),但还是有很多人忘记要换防,给对手留下了空档。

几乎每一场比赛都会出现这种情况。


Pop played the same lineup most of the 2nd half. Plus the officiating was terrible all game.

在下半场的大部分时间里,波波都是在使用同样一套阵容。再加上整场的裁判都很糟糕。


Where was a big the whole second half?! We could have used some pick and rolls. Pop made no adjustments. Our guys were tired and DJ can’t do everything!

下半场为什么不上一个内线?我们需要挡拆配合。波波没有做任何调整。我们的小伙子们都累了,而茉莉不能承担一切。


embrace the rebuild, just two more months of tanking

接受重建吧,也就需要再摆烂两个多月了


Are we tanking? Because if we're not this is embarrassing.

我们正在摆烂吗?如果不是,那可就太尴尬了。


People need to chill out and appreciate progress. We are a young rebuilding team. They didn't get blown out and where a traveling call away from holding them off. Games like this happen in basketball all the time. They played great and out hustled us most of the game. Think about from there end this is the most playing time some of them will get a year. For us we just went cold at the wrong time and it's obviously a work in progress. You don't just figure things out like a video game. It's a process. Breath it's ok.

我们需要冷静下来,欣赏小伙子们的进步。我们是一支年轻的重建球队。不能过分在意吹罚,因为一个走步未被吹罚就灰心丧气。这样的插曲在篮球比赛里是司空见惯的。对手打得很好,在比赛中的大部分时间都和我们在缠斗。想想看,这是他们中的一些人一整年中获得的最多的出场机会。对我们来说,我们只是在错误的时间失去了手感,这显然是需要改进的地方。你不可能像打电玩一样把所有都理得那么顺。这是一个过程。放轻松,一切都OK。

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昨天没看比赛赛后看到都是吹库明加的 原来是这个原因

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