到底是厚古薄今还是乔丹那个年代真的强

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我在抖音里面评论说对比现代篮球,80、90年代的NBA球员技术糙很多,很多球员打球动作也比较僵硬。个人认为以前的NBA技术战术也都没有现代篮球强,不过对抗属实是以前的比赛更激烈。

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新城第一扣将我甚至看过黑白颜色的远古集锦,那些人运球都不太流畅,大帅像打小朋友一样。我认为从篮球史来看各方面都是一直进步。对比80.90年代如今内线弱了,外线强了收起

你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化

当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访
NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。
NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
  这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。  这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。  而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。

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陈深的十日谈我觉得他放开了轮可以做到,但轻松真的搞笑。乔丹生涯最高的场均37分赛季,那个赛季他的个人使用率已经登峰造极了,比你看到的威少还过分,基本上就是一个人玩。而那个时候乔丹法则也还没诞生,又不允许包夹,很多球队只能让乔丹予取予求。很多球迷我觉得很看不起包夹啊,一说就是“那个年代也有伪包夹…”“乔丹可以破包夹…”但是让杜兰特这种错位怪物、得分机器骂娘的包夹真的这么不值一提吗?看看今年季后赛湖人怎么对付哈登的,换到现在,别的不说,就包夹这一项就能大大限制乔丹得高分,别太看不起现代篮球了,有些远古吹真应该让杜小帅好好怼怼……收起

谁说不允许包夹了,恰恰相反,乔丹87年遭遇的包夹频率是超级高

乔丹场均37和35分赛季,公牛投射能力差,所以乔丹要遭遇相对现在球星密集的多的防守
(下图括号里前面是一场比赛里持球进攻的次数,后面的数字是全程1对1,所谓的1对1,也不是真的1对1而是指既不遭遇直接包夹也不遭遇上线收缩协防而是象下面这样,1对1突破到内线才遭遇协防,突破篮下遭遇协防,算1对187年乔丹21场比赛遭遇防守密集度统计在这21场比赛里乔丹进行了792次持球进攻,获得201次1对1,被包夹协防密集度差不多达到74.6%遭遇各种后场包夹各种中场包夹各种三分线附近包夹两个45度各种低位包夹各种往中路突破多人收缩整体防守和针对个人防守是两回事,防守是五个人的资源,你更多的用这五个人中2~4个人的防守资源去防守1个人,那个人遭遇的防守强度就大。 那个年代对核心球员防守密集度更集中,而外线利用他们创造的空档的利用率低,既球分球出来不投,或者打铁的概率。 所以不能用整体得分去衡量。 80末乔丹个人遭遇的防守密集度是外线球员最高等级的存在包夹制造杀器,80末给各种高频率包夹的痛不欲生包夹出球不慢,经常可以第一时间出球但包夹分出来给外线的球要嘛不投,要嘛大概率各种直接打铁,或者间接打铁除非是这种直塞篮下的球而这种无球吸引防守助攻又算不在他头上(同库里)导致包夹遭遇虽多如牛毛,空档制造无数,但总体助攻也就5~7个左右那乔丹又是怎么在高密集度持球防守下得分的呢? 1.在有限的1对1里高效把握2.同时比一般人多打进一些多重防守的球3.利用好每一次接球就下球三威胁,接球就投,接球就突或者大量绕掩护无球CS4.抢好进攻篮板(87年乔丹场均2个进攻篮板)5.利用自己的盖帽抢断防守制造大量防反快攻,同时把握好正常的快攻机会综合以上,加上一些零碎的吃别人的饼,在大量出手权的前提下,就是乔丹能在这种防守密集度下依然能场均37分的原因。

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