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ON:纽卡斯尔 2-2 托特纳姆热刺
[–]【穆萨西索科】alt_entrance 760 points 21 hours ago
I've seen this game about 8 different times this season
这一集我在这一季都看过8回了
[–]【热刺】DidgeryDave21 306 points 20 hours ago
Our discord channel predicted the equaliser to the minute. Not even surprised anymore
我们的discord(一个由语音聊天软件发展而来的互联网社区平台)频道对扳平进球时间的预测都精确到分了。这剧本一点都不新鲜
[–]【热刺】Shane4894 145 points 20 hours ago
I cashed out a bet that had Spurs winning on the 84th minute.
我在第84分钟就把押热刺赢球的博彩给兑现了
[–]502Loner 31 points 19 hours ago
Was it right after Kane’s shot off the post?
也就是说凯恩那脚射中门柱之后你就跑路了?
[–]【热刺】Shane4894 15 points 17 hours ago
Yup...
嗯呐…
[–]【曼联】TheRedDevil10 32 points 20 hours ago
Why do you have a Moussa Sissoko flair
层主你主队标识咋是穆萨-西索科?
[–]lickusmadingus 92 points 20 hours ago
How do you have a Moussa Sissoko flair *
难道不是问如何把主队标识设成穆萨-西索科?
[–]Eloni 2 points 15 hours ago
!flair :Moussa_Sissoko:
按这个格式设置
可供设置的主队标识列表在此
(译注:这一段给想玩Reddit的朋友参考)
[–]【纽卡斯尔】Ayla_Mao 112 points 17 hours ago
Emil Krafth is stealing a living in the premier league
克拉夫特搁英超纯属混日子
[–]velvlad 25 points 17 hours ago
Is Manquillo better?
曼基略又能好到哪儿去?
[–]【纽卡斯尔】Hiwn 58 points 17 hours ago
Quite a lot better imo
还真好出一站地去
[–]ajtct98 46 points 17 hours ago
Massively. Comparing the two is like comparing a Michelin starred restaurant main course to a dodgy kebab that's just been spewed up by a dog onto your plate.
曼基略比克拉夫特强太多了。把他俩放一块比,就像是拿一道米其林星级餐厅出品的主菜,跟一份刚被狗嚼了吐到你盘子里的烤肉比较。
[–]【纽卡斯尔】macababy 324 points 17 hours ago
I cannot express how shit you have to be at defending to allow 22 shots to Newcastle and anywhere near 50% possession.
Harry Kane has been dragging a bottom 6 team to the top half of the table.
能让纽卡斯尔刷出22脚射门,还拿到接近50%的控球率,这样的防守是啥水平,我都不好意思点破你。
哈里-凯恩完全是靠一己之力把一支积分榜后六的球队扛到上半区。
[–]【阿根廷通信】acwilan 46 points 13 hours ago
Kane and Son
凯恩和孙兴慜联手扛的
[–]【曼联】Ajayhearty24 659 points 17 hours ago
Newcastle had 22 attempts at goal. That's double the amount spurs had.
纽卡斯尔打门22次。相当于热刺射门次数的一倍。
[–]【曼城】Faultyexistence 522 points 17 hours ago
How the fuck do you concede 22 shots against a Steve Bruce team. Newcastle had 4.07 xG too lol
史蒂夫-布鲁斯执教的球队都能对你射上22脚,你就说你有啥用。而且纽卡斯尔的期望进球数也达到了4.07
[–]【利物浦】NilsFanck 149 points 17 hours ago
the joelinton effect
若埃林通效应
[–]【纽卡斯尔】Black_Waltz3 44 points 17 hours ago
That just means we've used a month's worth of XG in one game. Expect a return to normal next week.
这数据只能说明我们把一个月的期望进球数全用在一场比赛里了。下礼拜应该就恢复正常水平。
[–]【曼联】TheAlmightyKrot 84 points 17 hours ago
I am assuming they didn't listen to his team talk and just winged it.
我估计纽卡球员是没把布鲁斯的队内训话听进去,直接放飞自我了。
[–]【布莱顿】mentallyguitared 474 points 17 hours ago
"El Jurassico: In the battle of the dinosaurs, both Steve Bruce and Jose Mourinho are desperate for a win"
Just sharing this headline here proving Jose and Steve are similar dinosaurs after all lmao
Jokes aside - conceding 20+ attempts to Newcastle United isn't what you want when you're fighting for top 4
“侏罗纪:在这场恐龙对决中,布鲁斯和穆里尼奥都对胜利充满渴望”
给大伙分享一条标题,它足以证明穆里尼奥和布鲁斯都是像恐龙一样的老派教练了
玩笑归玩笑——志在争四的球队咋能被纽卡斯尔轰出20多脚射门呢
[–]Bail____ 64 points 17 hours ago
Having to play Davinson Sanchez regular minutes isn’t conducive to positive football regardless of how much passion he can have in certain games
不管D-桑切斯在某些比赛里有多么充满激情,他都能常规上场对于踢出优质足球可没啥好处
[–]【曼联】ReflectingGod 94 points 17 hours ago
Davinson Sanchez might be in poor form, but he's not why Spurs conceeded 20 shots today.
桑切斯也许状态确实不行,但热刺今天被射了20多脚也轮不到他来背锅。
[–]【曼联】Im-A-Big-Guy-For-You 146 points 17 hours ago
the blame is always on the players, never the dinosaur system or the manager
从来都是球员的错嘛,反正怪不到老掉牙的战术体系或者教练
[–]【曼联】ZonedV2 100 points 17 hours ago
Throwback to everyone saying Lindelof wasn’t good enough for any premier league side
还公开说林德洛夫根本没有在英超立足的实力
[–]agreenfieId 64 points 17 hours ago
Mou on shaw: My brain, his body
穆帅谈卢克-肖:他的身体,执行我大脑的指令
[–]Reddevilslover69 46 points 17 hours ago
So happy most of those fans left our sub
绝大部分鸟迷都离开我魔专区了,开心
[–]【曼联】Atlascantakeit 60 points 17 hours ago
It's fucking stockholm syndrome, Mourinhostans will defend him no matter what.
简直就是特么的斯德哥尔摩综合征,不管穆鸟如何那些鸟迷都会为他辩护。
[–]【曼联】gambit700 170 points 17 hours ago
And the battle of "Which one of these motherfuckers is going to get sacked first?" ends in a draw
“哪个混蛋先下课”之战,最终以平局收场
[–]【国米】VZ-Faith 109 points 17 hours ago
Is Jose really going to get sacked? 2 points off 4th with 8 games to go, in a cup final. What exactly were Spurs expecting this season
穆帅真会被解雇吗?还有8轮的情况下距前四2分,还打进了联赛杯决赛。热刺这个赛季到底有啥想法?
[–]【贝尔格莱德游击】OmegaEleven 138 points 17 hours ago
It's baffling they're this high on the table, this is coming from someone who has almost watched all of their games this season. Like, they're playing so badly. They cannot keep a hold of the ball. It's what is fucking them, legit.
I don't even think their defence is that bad, they're just getting crossed, shot and dribbled at every fucking minute of the game. Like take todays stats, Newcastle had 22 shots this match. Are they suddenly some powerhouse with insane, positive attacking threat? Fuck no, other teams just know how to keep a hold of the ball, play with a more reasonable tempo, less direct. They don't give away the ball after 20 seconds in possession so their opponent can start another attack. And again, and again and again. No shit you concede.
I thought it might be the players, i thought maybe the insane amount of games has left it's mark.
I think mou cannot implement a style of football into this team that can win consistently. He's not the right man for this job. He will 100% be sacked in the summer after the season is over.
他们能在积分榜上排这么靠前真让人困惑,我可是几乎看了他们这赛季全部比赛才说这话的。他们踢得实在不咋滴。完全控不住球。这就是热刺本色。
我甚至都不觉得他们的防守有那么糟糕,他们在比赛里无非就是重复着传球、射门和带球而已。就拿今天这场的数据来说,纽卡射门数达到22次。难道他们突然打通了任督二脉,变成进攻高手了吗?屁嘞,只不过别的球队清楚控球的重要性,尽量用更合理而不是更大开大合的节奏来踢球。人家不会20秒就丢掉球权,然后被对手抓住机会打出新一轮进攻,一次又一次重复这过程。这么踢咋会丢球呢。
我觉得问题多少还是出在球员身上,如此密集的赛程也许给球员带来了负担。穆帅无法给这支球队打上一种烙印,好让他们能一直赢下去。他并不是热刺帅位的合适人选。他肯定会在赛季结束后的夏天被炒。
[–]【阿森纳】Benend91 22 points 17 hours ago
Wish I could come in here and mouth off but we'd probably lose to Bruceball at the moment.
本想着我能点进来嘲讽一番的,但转念一想,换了我厂估计已经被布鲁斯的球队揍趴下了。
[–]【阿森纳】LogicalReasoning1 16 points 17 hours ago
At this point supporting a North London football club should be classed as self harm
这时节,支持北伦敦球队无异于自残。
ON:穆里尼奥答“不再能保持领先优势”问题
【新闻背景】北京时间2021年4月4日晚,穆里尼奥在赛后接受了BBC 5 Live采访。采访者提出“您在过去可是相当擅长保持住领先优势的……”,穆帅答道:“教练一样,球员不同。”
[–]【沃特福德】TheFlyingHornet1881 438 points 20 hours ago
"Seemed confused and demotivated"
“似乎陷入了困惑,而且缺乏动力”
[–]【穆萨西索科】_hack0slash_alpha 6 points 6 hours ago
Exactly the words I would use to describe our playing style under him the last 5 months
这正是我想用来形容最近5个月里穆式热刺球风的词儿
[–]Manifesto8 970 points 20 hours ago
It’s a matter of days/weeks before we get the “Heritage” rant, Spurs version.
🦖🚌
距离热刺版的“足球遗产”演讲也就是几天/几周的事儿了
[–]Reddevilslover69 320 points 20 hours ago
It's the history of the Tottenham
这就是托特纳姆热刺的历史
[–]funcMyAccount 278 points 19 hours ago
Mourinho: "Lads, it´s Tottenham."
穆里尼奥:“伙计们,这可是托特纳姆热刺。”
[–]【曼联】PortugeseMagnifico 135 points 18 hours ago
It’s looking like it’s coming after the league cup final loss
估计联赛杯决赛败北之后就是演讲的时机
[–]SnooSprouts1741 41 points 14 hours ago
and if, a HUGE if, they win it, he would def say it's his biggest achievement. winning a goddamn league cup
而要是万一,百万分之一,热刺赢了的话,那他肯定会说这是他最大的成就。就赢个该死的联赛杯
[–]【热刺】Snoo8331100 73 points 19 hours ago
If Levy has any brain cells left he will sack him before that happens.
如果列维脑细胞还有剩的话,那他就该在穆里尼奥谈什么足球遗产之前就解雇他。
[–]【阿森纳】digosilva19 7 points 13 hours ago
he may have brain cells, but not money, he may have to sell Kane to afford sacking Mou
脑细胞的话列维应该还富裕,但钱的话就不好说了,他搞不好要卖掉凯恩才付得起解雇穆里尼奥的钱。
[–]Reddevilslover69 276 points 20 hours ago
It has begun. The beginning of the end
这就开始了。终结的开端。
[–]【热刺】throwingnickels 62 points 16 hours ago
Well November of 2019 was the official beginning of the end but this works too.
要我说,2019年11月才是终结的正式开端,不过你这说法也行吧。
(译注:意指穆里尼奥签约热刺的时间)
[–]【切尔西】AnnieIWillKnow 6 points 11 hours ago
First reported COVID cases, I believe
当时发现了首个新冠病例,是这意思吧
[–]【北伦敦】lastjedi23 492 points 20 hours ago
This dude and spurs are made for each other. It's one of those abusive relationships that neither party wants to get out of. I (the tabloid) love it though.
这家伙和热刺还真是般配啊。这就是那种双方都不想抽身的互虐关系。我(和各种小报)都蛮喜欢的。
[–]【热刺】Turbulent_Job_2963 127 points 20 hours ago
Pretty sure most Spurs fans especially those who live in London want him gone. Had enough of this shit
我很确信大多数刺迷,尤其是住在伦敦的刺迷都想他赶紧走人。已经受够他这一套了
[–]【北伦敦】lastjedi23 96 points 20 hours ago
Why you got him in to begin with is the big question. You are sitting on two golden eggs one of which you have to sell and reboot. Flash that ass like chelsea does and it will attract new high profile managers. But it's Dan levy so.....
根本问题在于你刺当初干嘛要请他来。你们现在坐拥两只金蛋,其中一只你们不得不卖掉用以重启队伍。要是像切尔西那样送走大神的话,你们还能重新吸引高水平教练。不过鉴于列维当政嘛……
[–]【热刺】Turbulent_Job_2963 69 points 20 hours ago
We needed a trophy and levy thought hiring Jose comes with the promise of a trophy
我们需要冠军,而列维当时认为签下穆帅就意味着冠军的承诺
[–]【热刺】manfiron 106 points 20 hours ago
We needed a rebuild and Levy thought hiring José was cheaper and easier
我们需要重建,而列维当时认为签下穆帅比较便宜而且容易
[–]【切尔西】tr_24 66 points 19 hours ago
Jose hasn't built a team since his Chelsea first stint.
穆里尼奥在切尔西的第一段执教生涯之后,哪里有过什么建队经验
[–]MilkandSashimi 35 points 20 hours ago
You’ll probably win the league cup and Jose will point to that forever.
要冠军是吧,那等你刺拿到联赛杯之后,穆帅会一辈子都指着冠军奖杯给你看。
[–]【水晶宫】EmperorBeaky 819 points 20 hours ago
Fucking nerve of this man lmao
这个男人的精神太特么牛叉了哈哈
[–]【利物浦】DerSchlangeman 378 points 20 hours ago
He knows he can do as he pleases, his compensation is insane if Levy decides for a sack
他清楚自己想说什么就能说什么,就他那天价违约金,列维动手之前还得掂量掂量
[–]【热刺】Roll_Strafe 295 points 18 hours ago
Yeah but does anyone remember why Poch got sacked? You’d think after two world class managers fail to get the best out of this team you’d start looking at the team.
Doesn’t necessarily mean I’m Jose in, but sacking him doesn’t fix all of our problems.
谁还记得波叔当初为什么被解雇的吗?两名世界级教练都没能将这支球队带到最佳水平的话,你再怎么也该审视一下球队本身了。
我倒不是什么挺穆派,但解雇穆帅并不会解决我们所有的问题。
[–]【曼联】netherworldite 157 points 18 hours ago
Fans don't want to hear it, I remember making almost essentially the exact same comment at the end of Mourinho's reign at United.
I can understand needing a world class manager to develop a unique playing style, or to outclass a top opponent, or nullify a stubborn team against you etc. But when people claim you need a world class manager to stop people making basic mistakes, I've never understood it. No professional footballer should need a manager to tell him not to give the ball away, or that he can't just jog back after giving the ball away.
球迷才不想听这些呢,穆帅此前在曼联的生涯尾声时,我也做出过差不多同样的评论。
我理解一支球队需要世界级教练为其打造一种独特的球风,或者超越一位顶级对手,或者将一个死敌踩在脚下等等诸如此类。但当人们要求聘请一名世界级教练,就为了让球员避免犯下很基础的错误,我是不能理解的。职业球员不应该需要教练来告诉他不要丢失球权,又或者告诉他丢球之后不要慢吞吞地去回追。
[–]【布莱顿】mentallyguitared 138 points 20 hours ago
The Jose we've all known
不愧是我们熟知的穆帅
[–]【马竞】OleoleCholoSimeone 67 points 17 hours ago
"Same manager" is ridiculous. The Mourinho of today is not even a shadow of his former self. He used to be the best coach in the world and a tactical genius, nowadays he is barely top 10 coaches in the PL and us tactically clueless
It is incredible how much football has changed in a decade, to leave one of the most modern coaches looking like an absolute dinosaur without a shred of tactical nous
“教练一样”就离谱。如今的穆里尼奥连过去他自己的影子都算不上。他曾经是世界最佳教练和战术天才,而现在的他顶多勉强挤进英超前十主帅,战术锦囊也见底了
十年来足球的发展日新月异,让曾经最为现代的足球教练之一看起来像是一名缺乏战术常识的老古董,想想也挺不可思议的
[–]mariaomurice 135 points 20 hours ago
Same coach, not 2005 anymore
教练一样,却再也不复2005的荣光
[–]【热刺】Turbulent_Job_2963 41 points 20 hours ago
2015 when Chelsea won the title is when I feel the great manager inside Mourinho died
2015年切尔西拿到英超冠军的那一刻,我就感觉穆里尼奥内在的那位伟大的教练已经死了
[–]Truffles413 26 points 19 hours ago
Nah I think his time in Madrid broke him. Something about the Spanish media just ate away at his soul. Never been the same since his time in Spain.
不,我觉得是他在皇马执教的生涯毁了他。西班牙媒体的破事蚕食了他的灵魂。西班牙那段经历以后,他就彻底不一样了。
[–]UOE459 57 points 20 hours ago
Ironically the 5-3 against Spurs around Christmas broke him. After that he became so negative but did the job and then obviously the wheels fell off
讽刺的是,正是当时圣诞节左右(2015年1月)对热刺的5-3失利击垮了他。打那时起,他就变得特别消极,工作他还是会尽力,只是曾经那辆铁血战车的车轮已然掉了。
[–]【曼联】LastingNihilism 17 points 16 hours ago
Don't need wheels when the bus is parked
大巴停得好,车轮不需要
[–]【曼联】AlpacamyLlama 35 points 20 hours ago
Same bus, different players.
大巴一样,球员不同。
往期传声筒