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Jaxson Hayes exclusive: On playing in the G League, trade rumors and his future in New Orleans

海耶斯独家专访：关于在G联赛中的表现，交易流言和他在新奥尔良的未来

Jaxson Hayes has been one of the biggest enigmas on the Pelicans roster since his arrival in 2019.

自2019年加盟以来，海耶斯一直是鹈鹕队最大的谜团之一。

His physical abilities jump off the screen: He glides across the floor in a 6-foot-11, 220-pound frame and explodes on alley-oops and blocked shots just as well as about anybody else at his position. He’s even shown some development with his touch from the perimeter and ballhandling out in space.

他的身体天赋从肉眼可见:他有6英尺11英寸、220磅还能快速的移动，并且他的空接和盖帽都非常劲爆，这些方面他处于中锋位置上的平均水准。他甚至在外线的控球和拉开空间方面取得了一些进步。

But for whatever reason, he hasn’t been able to put it all together for any significant stretch during his first three years in the NBA, and his playing time has fallen off each season, from an average of 16.9 minutes per game his rookie year to 11.7 so far in 2021-22.

但不管出于什么原因，在他进入NBA的前三年里，他都没能兑现他的天赋，他每个赛季的上场时间都在下降，从新秀赛季的平均每场16.9分钟下降到2021-22赛季的11.7分钟。

The Pelicans showed a lot of belief in Hayes’ potential when they acquired him with the No. 8 pick in the 2019 draft. Even then, they acknowledged it would take some time for him to physically and mentally mature into the player they thought he could be.

鹈鹕队在2019年的选秀中用8号签得到了海耶斯时，他们对海耶斯的潜力充满了信心。但即使在那时，他们也承认他需要一段时间才能在身体和心理上变得成熟，成为他们理想中的那个球员。

But Hayes has now fallen out of the rotation for the second year in a row, and patience is wearing thin with his slow development. New Orleans has invested in making Jonas Valančiūnas its main priority at center, trading for him in August and signing him to a two-year, $30 million contract extension in October. With Hayes on his way to being extension-eligible next summer, the 21-year-old’s future in New Orleans is starting to come into question.

但是海耶斯现在已经连续第二年退出了轮换阵容，随着他的缓慢发展，球队对他的耐心也越来越少了。新奥尔良更倾向于将乔纳斯·瓦兰培养为主力中锋，8月份交易得到他，10月份与他签下一份为期两年、价值3000万美元的续约合同。随着海耶斯将在明年夏天获得续约资格，这位21岁的球员在新奥尔良的未来开始受到质疑。

The Pelicans are still looking for ways to give Hayes the opportunity to show what he can do. This month, they sent him to play two games with the G League’s Birmingham Squadron, where he averaged 23.5 points and 11 rebounds.

鹈鹕队还在想办法给海耶斯展示他的能力的机会。这个月，他们派他参加了G联赛Birmingham Squadron队的两场比赛，他场均可以得到23.5分和11个篮板。

Hayes recently spoke with The Athletic about his frustrations and what his future may look like in New Orleans.

海耶斯最近接受了《The Athletic》的采访，谈到了他遇到的困难，以及他在新奥尔良的未来会是什么样子。

(Editor’s note: Responses have been lightly edited for clarity and style.)

(编者:为了简洁和方便阅读，内容已进行的编辑。)

If you could use one word to describe what this season has been like for you, what would it be?

如果你能用一个词来形容这一季对你来说是什么样的，那个词会是什么呢？

Maybe “frustrating.” I’m not sure if that’s the right word. But that’s the first one that comes to mind.

也许是"令人沮丧"我不确定这个词是否合适。但这是我脑海中的第一想法。

What was the experience like going down to the G League and playing with the Squadron?

被下放到G联赛打球的这段经历对你来说怎么样？

It was fun to go play with my guys and be able to hoop. It felt good to get out there and play heavy minutes and really get into the flow of the game. I was able to do some different things and play outside of my role here (with the Pelicans). That was a good experience. I haven’t been playing much recently, so it was great just to get out there and have some fun.

能和这里队员们一起打球，投篮，这很有趣。感觉很好，在那里的出场时间很多，能真正的参与了比赛。我能够做一些不同的事情，并在这里做一些我的角色之外(在鹈鹕时)的事情。那是一次很好的经历。我最近都没怎么打球，所以能出去找点乐子感觉很棒。

Did the team bring the idea of playing in the G League to you or was it something you suggested?

参加G联赛是球队的建议，还是你的想法？

They brought the idea to me.

是球队提供这个机会

And what was your reaction?

当时你的反应是怎么样的呢？

I’m just happy to get out there and hoop. Nobody wants to just sit on the side and do nothing. Of course, I’d rather be playing with (the Pelicans) consistently like I was earlier in the year. But I thought playing in the G League was something that could possibly help me. At least it was a chance to show what I can do.

我很高兴能离开板凳席还能打球。没人想坐在一边什么都不做。当然，我更愿意在鹈鹕队打球，就像今年早些时候那样。但我觉得在G联赛打球对我有帮助。至少这是个展示我能力的机会。

What were those games like for you in the G League? Do you think it helped your game in any way?

你在G联赛的那些比赛是什么样的？你觉得这对你的比赛有什么样的帮助？

It’s a lot different. It kind of feels like summer-league games, honestly. Kind of like AAU, where there’s not many stops, no timeout breaks, not a lot of calls. They kind of let you play. It helps some, playing through the physicality. It was a little easier to get into the flow and get a few more shots off without thinking too much.

说实话这很不一样。感觉有点像夏季联赛。有点像AAU，节奏很快，没有太多暂停，也没有太多的战术。他们更倾向于让你打。这有一些帮助，能让我打得更加强硬。能更容易进入节奏也能获得更多的投篮机会，不用想太多其他事情。

This is the second year in a row where you’ve kind of fallen out of the rotation and you’re spending a lot of time sitting and watching. How are you dealing with that?

这是你连续第二年从轮转中退出，你花了很多时间坐着看比赛。你是怎么处理这样的情况的？

It’s been an adjustment to learn a different coaching style, just getting to know each other. It’s never easy watching from the side. I’m just trying to deal with it.

当作是一次调整的机会，适应不同的教练风格，互相了解。在板凳席是看球从来都不是件容易的事。我正在想办法解决这个问题。

Year 3 is always a big one for guys early in their career. It’s usually the time when guys really start to establish who they’re going to be in the league. How hard is it to be where you are right now, knowing how big this year is for most young guys in their maturation?

第三年对于在职业生涯早期的来说总是很重要的一年。这通常是球员们真正开始确立自己在联盟中的地位的时候。当你知道今年对大多数成熟的年轻人来说是多么重要的一年时，你觉得现在所处的位置有多难？

It’s a little bit hard, but I know the grass is always greener. I know my talents, I know my skills. I know no matter what happens, I’ll be good either way. I’ve just got to keep doing what I do. I’ve got to stay locked in and make sure I’m worried about myself. I’m not worried about any of the other stuff or the money. I’m just focusing on myself. When they call on me, I want to be ready to show that I can play.

这确实有点难，但我知道草总是能变得更绿的。我相信我的潜力，我相信我的技术。我知道无论发生什么我都会做好自己。我会继续做我该做的事。我要被专注于球场的事务，确保我只关心我自己。我不担心任何其他的东西或是钱。我只是专注于我自己。当球队叫到我的时候，我想做好准备好展示自己的能力。

This summer when most of the team was in Nashville, everyone was hearing about how great you were playing and how it looked like you were ready to take it to the next level. What were your expectations coming away from that mini training camp?

这个夏天，当球队的大部分人都在纳什维尔的时候，每个人都在说你打得有多棒，看起来你已经准备好把自己提升到更高的水平了。你对迷你训练营的期望是什么？

In Nashville, I was really just playing my game. I was just trying to hoop and do everything I was working on all summer — working on my shot, working on my defense, blocking shots. I felt really good coming out of there. I thought it was lining up for me to contribute a lot this year. Obviously, that hasn’t happened as of yet.

在纳什维尔，我只是在打我的比赛而已。整个夏天我都在努力投篮，努力防守，努力盖帽。从那里出来我感觉很好。我以为我今年会做出很多贡献。但很明显，到目前为止还这没有发生。

Do you have a clear vision in your head of how you need to play to reach that next level in your game or is that still evolving?

在你的头脑中，你是否有一个清晰的认识，你需要怎么打才能让你的比赛表现中达到下一个水平，或者说这还在演变吗？

I don’t think I’m there yet, but I think I know what it looks like for the most part. I can be an elite pick-and-roll player. I can spread the floor by knocking down shots from farther out. I can bring the energy and the scoring. I can control the paint with my defense. I know what I bring to the table. I think a lot of teams know what I can bring to the table.

我想我还没到那一步，但我想我知道大部分情况下是什么样子的。我可以成为一名精英挡拆球员。我可以从球场很远的一端快速补防到位。我能带来能量和得分。我可以用我的防守统治禁区。我知道我可以带来什么。我想很多球队都知道我能带来什么。

What do you have to do to take that next step so you can show that you are that type of player?

下一步你要怎么做才能证明你是那种类型的球员？

Opportunity. I need to develop some rhythm. I need to be able to come in and not play, like, two minutes. I feel like if I’m given that time and I can get that rhythm, I’ll be able to produce.

机会.我需要进入节奏。我需要能参与进比赛而不是只打两分钟。我觉得如果给我时间，我能进入节奏，我就能打出成绩。

How are you dealing with the mental side of all of this?

你是如何处理这一切问题对你精神方面造成的困扰的？

Actually, it’s kind of easy on the mental side. I’ve got my dad in New Orleans with me. We talk a lot, and he gets where I’m coming from. My teammates are always supporting me and telling me to keep my head up.

其实在精神方面还挺容易的。我爸爸在新奥尔良跟我在一起。我们聊了很多，他明白我的意思。我的队友总是支持我，告诉我要时刻打起精神。

Is your dad the main person you lean on when things get tough? What’s been his message through all of this?

当事情变得困难的时候，你的父亲是你主要依靠的人吗？他向你传达了什么信息？

He just always tells me to worry about myself and worry about how I carry myself. You gotta remember this is a business. If you take care of what you’re supposed to do, then everything will work out. People will have their expectations. People will say whatever. But if you’re doing the right things, it’ll show.

He just always tells me to worry about myself and worry about how I carry myself. You gotta remember this is a business. If you take care of what you’re supposed to do, then everything will work out. People will have their expectations. People will say whatever. But if you’re doing the right things, it’ll show.

他总是告诉我要专注于我自己，专注于自己可以做的事情。你要记住这是生意。如果你能做好你该做的事情，那么一切都会好起来的。人们会有他们的期望。人们会有他们的期望。但如果你做的是对的事情，总会奏效的。

You’re a very polarizing figure among the fan base. Is it hard to ignore what people have to say about you and how things have worked out up to this point?

你在粉丝群里是个两极分化的人物。是不是很难忽视人们对你的评价，以及目前为止事情是如何发展的？

No, I don’t pay attention to any of it. I turn off my comments and all my requests. The only people who can hit me up are the people who I follow. I’ve honestly tried to stay off social media. I haven’t posted much since July. The only time I really ever go on there is to check on family members and look at funny memes.

不，我一点都不在意。我关闭了我社媒的评论区也拒绝了所有的好友请求。能找我的人只有我认识的人。我真的试着远离社交媒体。我从七月份开始就没怎么发过。我唯一一次真正去那里是看看家庭成员和看有趣的表情包。

What made you decide to start staying away from social media as much?

是什么让你决定远离社交媒体？

I realized how fake everything was and how much people in our community and people around the world are so caught up in what’s going on with social media. I just got tired of all of it.

我意识到一切都是虚假的，我们社区和世界各地的世界各地的人都被社交媒体所困扰。我只是厌倦了这一切。

Your name is starting to get thrown around a little bit with trade rumors online. Have you heard about any of that? If so, what’s your reaction?

你的名字开始出现在网上的交易流言了。你听说过这些事吗？如果有的话，你的反应是怎样的？

I haven’t seen much of it. People will tell me about it sometimes, so it’s hard to pretend like it’s not there. But I don’t pay it any mind. I’m just focusing on myself and making myself better. I want to help whatever team I’m playing for — whether it’s the Pelicans, Birmingham or whoever. I want to be the best player I can be.

我还没怎么看过。人们有时会告诉我，所以很难假装它不存在。但我一点也不在意。我只是专注于自己让自己变得更好。我想帮助我为之效力的球队，不管是鹈鹕，Birmingham还是其他球队。我想成为我能成为的最好的球员。

Since you arrived in New Orleans, there’s always been this special bond between you, Zion Williamson and Nickeil Alexander-Walker. You guys all came in together. What have they been telling you during these tough times?

自从你来到新奥尔良，你，锡安·威廉姆森和

尼克尔·亚历山大-沃克。你们都一起进入球队的。在这段艰难的日子里他们有跟你说了些什么吗？

It’s been really tough, because none of us are really having the year we wanted. I’m not playing right now, Nickeil isn’t shooting the way he knows he can. Z is hurt, so that would weigh on anyone mentally. They’ve both been doing stuff to help me out. The dynamic is the same as it’s always been. We’ll always be there for each other. Those are going to be my guys forever.

这真的很艰难，因为我们都没有真正打出我们理想的一年。我现在不轮换，沃克没办法用他喜欢的那种方式投篮。锡安受到伤病困扰，所我们每个人都在精神上承受着压力。他们都做了些事来帮助我。我们和以前一样有活力。我们会一直陪在彼此身边。他们永远是我的兄弟。

We all know how much Zion has been struggling through this injury. What have you two been telling him throughout this process?

我们都知道锡安在这次伤病中有多挣扎。你们俩在整个过程中有跟他说些什么吗？

It’s crazy, because everyone’s been trying to fry him. I know he’s trying to ignore all that stuff and do what he has to do. When we’re sitting at the game, people are yelling stuff at him. I just tell him, “Bro, they’re just mad because they’re not in your shoes.” That’s all you can tell him. We all know how much he wants to play. He’s doing all he can to get back right. But there’s nothing we can do until he’s healthy. We just have to be there to support him.

太疯狂了因为所有人都对他很不友好。我知道他想无视那些事，只做他该做的事。当我们坐在场边比赛的时候，人们对他大喊大叫。我只是告诉他，“兄弟，他们生气是因为他们不知道你在经历什么。”你只能告诉他这些。我们都知道他有多想打。他在尽他所能恢复正常。但在他健康之前我们什么都做不了。我们能做的只有支持他。

What would you say to the Pelicans fans who have been waiting for you to have that breakthrough moment, but they’re not as sure it’s going to happen now?

你会对鹈鹕队的球迷说些什么呢？他们一直在等着你取得突破，但他们不确定这会不会发生？

I would say keep watching. They’ll see. I’ve just got to wait for my opportunity.

我会说接着看吧。他们会看到的。只要我得到属于我的机会。

Do you feel like that can happen in New Orleans?

你希望这发生在新奥尔良吗？

If I get the chance, I will. You never know. Right now, I’m not getting the chance. I hope so. I love it here. This has been my home for three years. I’d much rather it happen here than anywhere else. But if it’s not in God’s plan, then it’s not in God’s plan. I’m just staying ready and focusing on myself. I’ll deal with whatever God gives me.

如果我有机会我会的。但你永远不知道会发生什么。现在我还没机会。但我希望如此。我喜欢这里。这三年里这都是我的家。我希望它发生在这里而不是其他地方。但如果不在上帝的计划里那就不在上帝的计划里吧。我只是做好准备专注于自己。无论上帝怎么安排我都会处理好的。