[楼工团·圣城JRs之声]马刺&雷霆赛后:丑陋的比赛,好在赢了,该留下盆栽吗?
马刺又又又……又一次将比赛“拖”入了最后的关键时刻,比赛十分丑陋,好在赢了。朗尼-沃克最近的表现可圈可点,是否会留下他,JRs们各执己见。还有三场,波波就将登上历史胜场第一的宝座,会是在主场对阵湖人的比赛吗?我们搬运并翻译了海外马刺JRs的留言。
Pop takes 2nd place most wins all time by a NBA coach. 3 to go.
Countdown - goatpop.com
波波现在第二,距离NBA教练历史胜场第一还有3场。
倒计时——波波第一.com
keep it up, Lonnie!!
保持下去,盆栽!!
The dude has been solid the last three games. I think he's been sandbagging it so that he wouldn't get traded, and now he's going to play lights out the rest of the year so that the Spurs keep him and give him some cash.
盆栽在最近三场打得都不错。我想他要是一直有这样的表现,就不会老是被提及要交易了,现在他要在赛季剩余的比赛里打出不错的表现,这样才有希望以一份体面的合同留在马刺。
I bet some mf's would say "kEeP iT uP sO hIs TrADe VaLuE gOeS uP"
NO. Keep it up so he can be a valuable player for us. Good shit Lonnie!! I hope you stay consistent
我打赌一些球迷会说“保持下去,这样他的交易价值才会上升”
我不这么想。如果他保持下去,他有可能会成为我们重建中的重要球员。看好你,盆栽!我希望你能稳定下去
Not the prettiest game but a W is a W
丑陋的比赛,好在赢了就是赢了
Cardiac Spurs have straight up given me some jitters, yeesh.
But hey, we still snagged the W so all's well. I think I need some calming tea though.
奶奶的,马刺最后的表现让我的小心脏都快受不了。
但我们最终还是赢啦,所以一切OK。不过,我想我还是喝口茶,平复一下心情。
We just wanted to improve our close game record
我只是希望我们不要再输掉这种焦灼的比赛了
Fun up and down game. Spurs had 6 players with 15+ points. Vassell and Walker have stepped up big since the departure of Derrick White.
Nice to see the new faces in uniform tonight (Richardson, Sato, and Langford). Richardson played 14 minutes and had a 3 pointer go down.
跌宕起伏的比赛,很有趣。马刺有6名球员得分15+。自从小白离开后,哇塞和盆栽的戏份都有所增加。
很高兴今晚能够在场边看到新援(二叉、洒脱和朗福德)。二叉打了14分钟,还投中了一记三分。
Richardson played 14 minutes and had a 3 pointer go down.
Team high +14, even if single game plus minus is usually just noise.
二叉打了14分钟,还命中了一个三分。
正负值高达+14,尽管一场比赛的正负值可能也就看看而已。
close game but spurs got the dub.
3 point shooting has been awful the past two games but hopefully they find their form post all star break.
lonnie looks good when he focuses on driving over shooting
又打到了最后时刻,不过好在马刺这一回赢了。
过去两场球的三分投得都一塌糊涂,希望全明星赛后他们能找回手感
当更专注于突破而不是投篮时,盆栽看起来更好
Keldon has 20+ ppg. potential and Lonnie stock is trending upwards; very good.
烤鸡有场均砍下20+的潜力,盆栽有回暖的趋势,非常好。
Spurs made this way too close for comfort. Spurs need to learn how to close out games better. That's what rebuilding is for. To teach, learn and grow.
Josh Richardson displayed some good stuff in his limited playing time. Played great man defense and showed some outside shooting.
I ask myself about the Lonnie Walker conundrum. The first half, Lonnie was doing very well offensively. And then, the lack of consistency showed it's ugly head again. Is Lonnie worth re-signing and will he fix his flaws and fulfill his potential? For me, the answer is no.
Honestly watchiing the game, the Spurs were pretty lackadaisical. Not really displaying 100% effort on the glass and contesting threes. Not doing the little things. But got the W at the end.
Week off for the Spurs, Get ready for Dejounte to play in the All-Star Game!
马刺总是把比赛搞得这么焦灼。他们需要学会如何更好地收割比赛。这也是重建中需要学习的。学会并成长。
二叉在他有限的上场时间里展现了一些不错的比赛内容。个人防守不错,也展现了一定的外线投篮能力。
我扪心自问关于盆栽的难题。他上半场的进攻打得不错。然后,缺乏稳定性的问题再次浮出水面。盆栽值得续约吗?他会改进自己的不足并展现自己的潜力吗?我对此并不乐观。
老实说,我看了比赛,马刺队的表现相当懒散。在争抢篮板和干扰对手三分上没有百分百地投入。许多细节做得不好。虽然,我们最后赢了。
马刺将休息一周,准备迎接茉莉的全明星之旅吧!
LW4 is your project 4 year 35 MM role-player that teams put in the game to change pace and occasionally cook up opposing team’s poor defensive players
盆栽就是那种球队计划中,当比赛需要改变进攻节奏,或者偶尔遇上那种防守薄弱的球队时,能够顶上的4年3500万合同的角色球员。
that would be a massive overpay lol dont scare me like that
那将是一份过大的溢价合同,哈哈,不要这样吓我
If Collins can get a 3 year $24mil a year based on the hope that he can stay healthy, I don’t see why we can’t give the same type of opportunity to Lonnie based on the hope that he develops further.
如果仅仅因为希望能够保持健康,就送给科林斯一份3年2400万的合同,我不明白为什么不能因为未来还有成长的可能,就给盆栽同样的机会。
4/35 is more than 3/24
Lonnie has shown nothing to warrant that kind of money while Collins looked good when healthy
only the 1st year and a fraction of the 2nd are guaranteed for Collins
Lonnie has hardly improved at all in the 4 years here, hoping he will magically start now is just silly
4年3500万比3年2400万要大
盆栽没有表现出任何值得这么大合同的迹象,而科林斯在健康的时候看起来很不错
而且科林斯的合同只有第一年和第二年的一小部分是保障的
在这四年里,盆栽几乎没有任何进步,希望他现在就能麻雀变成凤凰是愚蠢的。
The longer the contract the bigger the salary. That’s usually how NBA contracts work.
Lonnie absolutely looks like he deserves a contract based on efficiency… when he’s good. The flashes of improvement pop up often, and he’s still raw and young. He can definitely improve.
His contract can be backloaded; and at his worst, he could be traded as an expiring contract in 2026. If he leaves now, we get almost nothing out of him.
Edit: you must not have seen how totally raw he was out of college. He showed physical attributes, but not much else. He’s always been considered a long term project.
年限越长,合同越大。NBA的合同通常都是这样的。
当他还不错的时候,基于他的效率,盆栽绝对可以获得一份体面的合同。他经常会展现进步的闪光点,她还很年轻。他绝对有提升的空间。
他的合同可以递减;最糟糕的情况下,他可以在2026年作为一份到期合同被交易。如果现在不续约他,我们就一无所获。
(你一定没有见过他刚进入联盟时是多么稚嫩。只有劲爆的身体素质,仅此而已。他一直被认为是一支长期持有的潜力股。)
yeah the longer the contract, the more money, but you go from 8/yr for Collins To 9/yr for Lonnie. that's why he said it's more money. there are a lot of guys in the league you can throw that salary at and hope they'll earn it. I wouldn't go over 7 million per year for him right now because he's an actively negative player.
是的,年限越长,合同越大,科林斯平均800万/年,盆栽900万/年。所以盆栽的合同更大。联盟里有很多球员,你可以给他们这样的合同,并且希望他们能够值这个价。我现在不会给他超过700万的年薪,因为他就是个负能量的球员。
He's a restricted free agent.. Spurs will let him test the market and eventually let him walk like SloMo or Jonathan Simmons.. what does he give the team to warrant 4/35? Vassell is arguably already better than him and we have 3 picks that could easily take his role
他是受限制的自由球员。马刺会让他试水自由市场,最终让他像大马杨和大床那样滚去拿大合同。他凭什么值4年35000万?哇塞可以说已经比他更好了,我们还有三个选秀签可以轻松取代他的角色。
yeah but there is no reason to give Lonnie more years or more money per year. none.
also, what efficiency? he is shooting 39/29/81, even worse than Dejounte "cant shoot 3s" Murray from 3 and he still jacks them up like he is steph curry. for a guy who gives you absolutely nothing other than scoring he is terribly inefficient.
getting nothing for him might be better than wasting cap space and playing time on a bad player.
是的,没有理由给盆栽这么大、这么长的合同。
还有,他是什么效率?39/29/81的命中率,甚至比德章泰“不投三分”默里的三分还要差,但他仍然像库里一样义无反顾地扔三分。对于一个除了得分啥也不行的球员来说,他太低效了。
一无所得远比在一名糟糕的球员身上浪费薪金空间和上场时间要好
i'm from the future
pop getting the record at home against the lakers in early march
我从未来穿越回来
我宣布:波波将在三月初主场对阵湖人的比赛中取得这个记录!
do they have reddit in the future?
未来有reddit吗?
aliens are gonna knock reddit offline for a hot minute really soon
热度会让reddit瘫痪1分钟吗
Glad to see JRich still have defensive clamps. Glad Pop let him play in the 4th when OKC was threatening a comeback when Spurs played a crappy 3rd quarter
很高兴看到二叉依然防守在线。当马刺第三节表现糟糕,雷霆要逆转翻盘的时候,很高兴波波还能在第四节让他出场。
Lonnie Walker IV vs Lindy Waters III, what a battle
朗尼-沃克四世和林迪-沃特斯三世,多么激烈的对决!
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