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ON：国际足联及欧足联对俄罗斯国家队和俱乐部全面禁赛

[–]【纽卡斯尔】321142019 2089 points 22 hours ago*

I wonder how this is going to effect the remainder of the Europa League? Does Leipzig just go through automatically now or?

Edit: UEFA confirm that with Spartak Moscow suspended - RB Leipzig are qualified to the quarter-finals of Europa League.

我好奇的是，欧联杯余下的球队会受到怎样的影响？RB莱比锡现在是自动晋级还是怎么着？

编辑：欧足联已确认，随着莫斯科斯巴达克被禁赛，RB莱比锡直接晋级欧联杯四分之一决赛。

[–]【巴萨】tr8rm8 853 points 22 hours ago

Not really a fair way to replace the team so probably. Could give it to the best 3rd place group stage team I suppose just so there’s an actual competition

另寻球队顶替他们参赛也不公平，所以多半就是莱比锡直接晋级了。要么就是把名额顺延给小组赛阶段成绩第三好的球队，这样也能有一场真正的比赛

[–]【曼联】AlwaysRepeat 500 points 21 hours ago

Those teams joined the Conference League

您呼叫的用户已前往欧会杯服务区

[–]【凯尔特人】MiloWee 807 points 21 hours ago

Celtic can join, only to get bounced again.

The historic European quadruple.

凯尔特人请求出战，只为再被淘汰一次。

史无前例的欧战四冠亡。

（译注：就在上周，凯尔特人刚刚成为第一支单赛季在欧冠、欧联和欧会杯三级赛事均被淘汰的球队）

[–]【阿贾克斯】Froggiefied 6820 points 19 hours ago

Dang they did it

好家伙，他们真下手了

[–]【多特蒙德】LordVelaryon 3808 points 19 hours ago

Tremendous decision, breaks the history of the organization. Lets hope that it is a precedent that will be also enforced in the future regardless of the offender.

这是个极其重大的决定，它打破了足联的历史。希望这会成为一个先例，而且无论违规者是谁，今后都会被这样强制执行。

[–]【安德莱赫特】SpaceCadet2000 645 points 19 hours ago

Tremendous decision, breaks the history of the organization

Didn't UEFA ban Yugoslavia right before Euro 92?

这是个极为重大的决定，它打破了足联的历史

欧足联在92年欧洲杯之前难道不是对南斯拉夫实施过禁赛吗？

[–]【莫斯塔尔贝莱斯】atomsej 1134 points 19 hours ago*

Yes. Why is everyone forgetting about the yugoslav wars all of a sudden lmao, yugoslavia/serbia literally had the exact same reactions from FIFA/UEFA in the 90s.

Edit: It's also how Denmark won the euros in 92. They took yugoslavia's spot after they were banned having not originally qualified to the tournament.

是的。为什么所有人突然就把南斯拉夫战争忘在脑后了呢，简直笑死个人，上世纪90年代，国际足联和欧足联对南斯拉夫和塞尔维亚的反应可谓一模一样

编辑：这也是92年欧洲杯丹麦童话的起源。在南斯拉夫被禁赛之后，未能从预选赛突围的丹麦队取代了他们晋级决赛圈。

[–]【拜仁】O_wa_a_a_a 496 points 19 hours ago

So what you’re saying is Poland snag Russia‘s spot and win the WC…

所以就好比是波兰从俄罗斯手里抢到世界杯门票，最后还举起了大力神杯……

[–]【贝尔格莱德游击】A3xMlp 128 points 19 hours ago

The reason for the ban were UN sanctions, FIFA/UEFA didn't do it on their own, their hand was forced. Not the case this time.

南斯拉夫被禁赛是因为联合国的制裁啦，又不是国际足联/欧足联自己能拍板的，高级工具人罢了。和这次的情况并不相同。

[–]【那不勒斯】TheOwlsLie 191 points 19 hours ago

I really doubt it will, some countries seem immune to consequences

（希望这会成为一个先例）我很怀疑这一点，有些国家根本就有免死金牌嘛

[–]【阿森纳】fegelman 141 points 19 hours ago

laughs in Qatar

卡塔尔方向传来笑声

[–]【马竞】CanLlorenteCarForMe 934 points 19 hours ago

Yep. It's a huge turning point which will undoubtedly lead to shitshows in the future.

There was a reason FIFA stayed out of this but looks like Putin's shitshow broke them.

没错。这确实是一个巨大的转折点，而且毫无疑问会在未来导致各种闹剧。

国际足联想要置身事外肯定是有原因的，但普京的这场闹剧把他们逼了出来。

[–]【热刺】silenthills13 758 points 19 hours ago

It's not the shitshow, it's the consensus of everyone around to say fuck them

不是因为闹剧本身，是因为大家都围着国际足联嚷嚷着上啊弄他们

[–]【利物浦】prinskipper__skipple 273 points 19 hours ago

That's the crux of it. Whether it's negative because FIFA only acted because everyone else did, or positive because everyone acting as they did brought about that ban, is open to discussion.

这就是症结所在。这件事是消极的吗？因为国际足联只是因为别家都表态了所以才有所行动。还是积极的？因为所有人都表现得像是自己努力促成了这次禁赛。答案还有待探讨。

[–]【皇马】TomasRoncero 2615 points 19 hours ago*

So Poland pretty much has a bye now for the world cup playoff?

Edit: and Leipzig in the Europa League round of 16

所以波兰要和世界杯决赛圈说再见了？

编辑：同样遭遇的还有欧联杯八分之一决赛的莱比锡

[–]【圣约翰斯通】scottishbuzzard 1702 points 19 hours ago

Or Slovakia could take Russia's place, as they finished third in Russia's group. I think that's how Denmark got into the 92 Euros when Yugoslavia couldn't play.

要不让斯洛伐克顶替俄罗斯的席位，毕竟他们在俄罗斯那个小组排名第三。我记得92年欧洲杯南斯拉夫不能参赛时，丹麦就是这么替补入围的。

[–]【葡萄牙】tbdjdb2 505 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, Yugoslavia had qualified, but the war had started, so Denmark went instead

是啊，南斯拉夫当年晋级了的，但是战争打响，于是丹麦挤上了末班车。

[–]powerchicken 826 points 19 hours ago

And casually won the tournament too.

还顺便赢下了欧洲杯。

[–]【阿森纳】biskutgoreng 310 points 19 hours ago

They didnt even qualify in the first place??

丹麦队一开始都没有通过预选赛吗？

[–]powerchicken 653 points 19 hours ago*

Nope. Failed to qualify, won the Euros regardless.

Edit: In addition, star player and all-time great Michael Laudrup didn't even play as he had some disagreements with the manager and was convinced the team didn't stand a chance. Still won ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

木有。晋级失败，但还是拿了欧洲杯。

编辑：补充一下，当时丹麦队的明星球员及史上最佳球员米歇尔-劳德鲁普甚至都没出场，因为他和时任主帅有分歧，在他眼里那支丹麦队在欧洲杯上根本没戏。结果还是捧杯了 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–]【河床】ElMarkuz 87 points 19 hours ago

Italy could follow their examples if they screw up

今年意大利万一搞砸了的话，可以走走丹麦的老路。

[–]【爱尔兰】KnightsOfCidona 111 points 18 hours ago

Portugal to be banned from the World Cup after invading Spain

在葡萄牙入侵西班牙之后，该队被禁止参加世界杯

[–]【河床】VerifiedStalin 81 points 18 hours ago

Cristiano Ronaldo did conquer Madrid after all.

C罗确实有征服过马德里没错啦。

[–]FatherOop 836 points 19 hours ago

Following the initial decisions adopted by the FIFA Council and the UEFA Executive Committee, which decisions envisaged the adoption of additional measures, FIFA and UEFA have today decided together that all Russian teams, whether national representative teams or club teams, shall be suspended from participation in both FIFA and UEFA competitions until further notice.

These decisions were adopted today by the Bureau of the FIFA Council and the Executive Committee of UEFA, respectively the highest decision-making bodies of both institutions on such urgent matters.

Football is fully united here and in full solidarity with all the people affected in Ukraine. Both Presidents hope that the situation in Ukraine will improve significantly and rapidly so that football can again be a vector for unity and peace amongst people.

根据国际足联理事会和欧足联执行委员会通过的初步决定（以及相关额外措施），国际足联和欧洲足联今天共同决定，所有俄罗斯球队，无论是国家队还是俱乐部队，都将被暂停参加国际足联和欧足联的比赛，直至另行通知。

国际足联理事会主席团和欧足联执行委员会今天分别通过了这些决定，这两大机构是这类紧急事项的最高决策机构。

在这里，足球运动是完全团结的，也与所有受到影响的乌克兰人民同在。两大足联的主席希望乌克兰的局势能够得到迅速且显著的改善，以便足球能够再次成为人们团结与和平的纽带。

[–]【泽尼特】notsureifJasonBourne 573 points 19 hours ago

Fade me.

直接注销我吧。

[–]【利物浦】trick63 317 points 18 hours ago

cant imagine how its gotta feel to be a fan of a russian club right now, but this had to happen.

无法想象俄罗斯俱乐部的球迷此刻是怎样的感受，但这个决定势在必行。

[–]【泽尼特】notsureifJasonBourne 490 points 18 hours ago

Yeah I don’t disagree. It sucks and I feel bad for the players, but it doesn’t even come close to comparing to the actual suffering that millions are having to endure right now.

是的，我也不反对。我确实感觉很糟，而且也为那些球员难过，但和数百万人民正在忍受的真正折磨相比，这点不适简直不值一提。

[–]nightslikethese29 82 points 18 hours ago

Really hope this nonsense and suffering ends soon. I don't want Russian people to be hurt with all the sanctions, but it seems like the only tool we have to stop Putin short of direct intervention.

真心希望这场闹剧和痛苦早些结束。我不想要俄罗斯民众因为制裁而遭受伤害，但除了直接干预之外，这大概是我们唯一能阻止普京的手段了。

[–]【泽尼特】notsureifJasonBourne 149 points 18 hours ago

I’m not Russian, but have a Russian spouse and family with many ties to Ukraine who are all just crushed and ashamed with what’s happening. There’s a helplessness that’s hard to explain.

我不是俄罗斯人，但我有一个俄国伴侣，以及和乌克兰关系密切的家庭，他们都对近来的局势感到震惊和羞愧。这种无奈之感，很难跟人解释。

[–]【曼联】FarAcanthocephala 1232 points 19 hours ago

Imagine if FIFA didn't do this and teams refused to play the World Cup in Qatar.

Qatar probably paid them off because no way FIFA have morals

想象一下，如果国际足联没有采取行动，然后所有球队都抵制参加卡塔尔世界杯。

卡塔尔估计买通了他们，因为国际足联的字典里就没有道德这两个字。

[–]【莫斯科中央陆军】nookieZ 188 points 19 hours ago

It's pretty much destroys club football in our country. Now all foreign players will leave the clubs, no sense playing only domestic cups.

Dark ages..

这几乎摧毁了我们国家的俱乐部足球。眼下所有的外援都将离开球队，毕竟国内赛事也没什么可踢的。

黑暗时代啊……

[–]【莫斯科斯巴达克】CAB4yK 61 points 19 hours ago

Maybe it will clear itself? No more state sponsors, no more overvalued players, no more defensive boring football?

Who am I kidding?..

没准它能自己得到净化呢？再也没有国家级赞助商，没有溢价球员，没有无聊的防守足球？

我骗谁呢？……

[–]【曼联】Comessuer 235 points 18 hours ago

Firstly let me just say this is good and I fully support it.

But I would like to know what is the criteria? How do we decide who gets banned and who doesn't. Israel were boycotted by countries as a protest against their atrocities and not only did European clubs not support them they allowed them to play in Europe.

So. Will Saudi Arabia be banned now for their actions in Yemen? Will Israel be banned next time they bombard Gaza? Will the USA be banned next time they bomb a middle eastern country?

I hope so but I won't hold my breath.

首先我要说这个决定很好，我完全支持。

但我想知道标准是什么？我们如何决定谁会被禁赛，谁又不会被禁赛。以色列曾被一些国家抵制，以此抗议该国暴行，而欧洲俱乐部非但不支持这些国家，反而还允许以色列球员在欧洲踢球。

所以，沙特阿拉伯会因为他们在也门的作为而被禁赛吗？以色列会因为下一次轰炸加沙而被禁赛吗？美国会因为下一次轰炸某个中东国家而被禁赛吗？

我希望会，但我不指望。

（译注：原文与译文均删去一句。别问。）

[–]african-elephant 82 points 16 hours ago

The criteria is so fucked up that the same Russia , and the same Putin have been killing Syrian civilians for years and Russia held the 2018 world cup like nothing happened.

See... Russia was banned this time because the victim now is European.

这所谓的标准实在过于草蛋，同样是俄罗斯，同样是普京，他们多年以来口口叙利亚平民，结果俄罗斯就像无事发生一样还举办了2018年世界杯。

明白了吧……俄罗斯这次被禁赛，是因为如今的受害者是欧洲人。

[–]【利物浦】MoSalahsSmile 120 points 18 hours ago

Good. But I’m just confused why they didn’t do this to the United States with the Iraq invasion, or Israel, or Saudi Arabia, etc.

干得好。但是让我感到困惑的是，为什么美国入侵伊拉克时他们不这么做呢？为什么对以色列、沙特阿拉伯等国家不这么做呢？

[–]【阿贾克斯】afcaMouz 95 points 17 hours ago

Are you actually implying we should care about brown people dieing?

C'mon man don't make such outrageous statements

你是在暗示我们应该关心有色人种的死活吗？

拜托，老兄，别说这么离谱的话

[–]【利物浦】MoSalahsSmile 64 points 17 hours ago

Ahhh damn! You’re right. My bad. We only care about “civilized” places.

啊我靠！你说得对。我糊涂了。我们只关心“文明”社会的事儿。

[–]Yenson- 54 points 17 hours ago

No no, it's "semi-civilized" according to CNN because Esatern Europe, but they didn't fail to mention they are blue eyed blondes unlike the dirty brown refugees tho

不不，按照CNN的说法，因为他们地处东欧的缘故，属于“半文明”社会，但媒体倒是没忘记提及这些民众有着金发碧眼，不像那些肮脏的深色皮肤难民

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