[犹他JRs之声]关键时刻的鬼?今日赛后海外球迷批评米切尔

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Jazz (42-26) lose to Bucks (43-26) 117-111.

[赛后]爵士(42-26)输给雄鹿(43-26)比分117:111

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[-]Dhylan18

If you are a fan of second round exits do I have the team for you

如果你想粉一支二轮游球队,猜猜我会推荐哪支?

[-]PrecisionAcc

You mean the Mavs? Bc this team is a first round exit

你是说独行侠吧?因为爵士首轮就被淘汰了。

[-]JGT40

Man I would love to make the second round this year

哥们,今年能进二轮我会很高兴的。

[-]PrecisionAcc

With the Jazz always allowing other teams to make history, this might be the first time Luka gets out the first round…

鉴于爵士队总是做其他球队历史时刻的背景板,今年可能会是东契奇第一次突破首轮...


[-]SteezyRay

Close games give me PTSD

我对焦灼比赛有PTSD(创伤后应激障碍)了。

[-]chris_b_critter

Yes, and double-digit leads in the second half give me PTSD as well. So, in effect, the Jazz just give us PTSD all the time.

是的,下半场两位数的领先优势也让我犯PTSD。所以实际上爵士就是一直在给我们带来PTSD。


[-]Cammart90

Basically Mike, Rudy, and Whiteside were the only guys that were any good tonight. So I’m shocked it was even that close.

今晚只有康利、戈贝尔和怀特塞德表现出色。所以我很惊讶我们居然能打得这么焦灼。

[-]vbeaver9

Super happy to see Conley have a good night! We're going to need him healthy and on point in the playoffs. Hope House is okay.

超级开心看到康利今晚表现出色! 我们需要他在季后赛中保持健康和状态。希望豪斯没事。

[-]BobbyFlash09

Who's worse in the 4th, Royce or Donovan? Rudy was playing some clutch ball late game.

第四节罗伊斯.奥尼尔和米切尔谁更烂?戈贝尔在比赛末段打出了一些关键球。


[-]CBNDSGN

Another close game lost. At this point, I'm just hoping we're doing a reverse 2021: instead of a great season and ugly post-season, we'll do the opposite.

Btw, someone needs to tell Donovan that he is 112th out of 136 players (20+ games) in TS% in the clutch. That's bottom 20%. He's dead last among those with at least a 25 usage rate.

Quick edit not-so-fun fact: Out of those 136 players with 20+ clutch games, Royce is 134th in TS%

又输掉了一场焦灼的比赛。现在我只希望今年和2021年的状况相反:不要再常规赛超神季后赛惨淡出局了,我们得反过来。

顺便说一下,需要有人告诉米切尔,他在关键时刻的真实命中率在136人(出场20场以上的球员)中排名112,倒数20%。而在使用率不低于25%的球员中,他排名倒数第一。

补充一个不那么有趣的事实:在这136名出场20场以上关键时刻比赛的球员中,罗伊斯.奥尼尔的真实命中率排在第134位。

[-]CBNDSGN

I think this is it, and it's always been the case. This can be fixed with experience and /or coaching. Being that it's been an issue all of his pro career, I'm not counting on the latter, it's on him to realize he needs to do things differently.

我认为就是这样,而且一直都是这样。这可以通过比赛经验和(或)教练来解决。由于这是他整个职业生涯中的问题,我不指望教练组解决,而是要靠他自己意识到需要用不同的方式取得胜利。

[-]CBNDSGN

He's been clutch here and there but not overall.

20+ games in the clutch, usage rate of at least 25, Donovan's TS% has ranked:

This season: 33rd out of 33

Last season: 32/36

19-20: 20/37

18-19: 37/41

17-18: 27/38

米切尔有那么几次关键球,但总体而言他的关键时刻表现并不好。

出场20场以上的关键时刻比赛并且使用率至少为25%的球员中,米切尔的真实命中率排名:

本赛季:33个人里排33

上赛季:32/36

19-20: 20/37

18-19: 37/41

17-18: 27/38


[-]MtHoodMagic

I am starting to wonder if he is mentally checked out of this team

我开始怀疑米切尔的心思是不是脱离犹他爵士了。

[-]chupacadabradoo

He’s the opposite. He presses too much in the clutch. Gets tight, and makes poor decisions sometimes, and takes tough shots, or overthinks shots. He wants it too bad in those moments. Did you see how he put his hands on his head and had pain in his eyes after this one? He just needs a good clutch game or two and he’ll be complete. The dude is an absolute beast, and a class act. He’s gonna get us a chip.

恰恰相反。他在关键时刻给自己的压力太大了。他很紧张,所以有时会做出错误的决定,出手一些高难度投篮,或者犹豫后出手,在那种时刻他太想命中了。你看到他在那球之后双手抱头,眼睛里充满了沮丧吗?他只需要在一两场焦灼比赛中表现出色,他就会变得完美。这家伙是一个绝对的野兽,是一名优秀的球员。他将为我们赢得冠军。

[-]SkySix

29/8/6 makes you wonder if he's checked out? Being inefficient in the clutch isn't the same as being checked out.

29分8助6板让你怀疑他想从爵士跑路?他在关键时刻低效并不代表他心思不在这里。


[-]cruxstew

We won’t be contenders until we can close out close games.

除非我们能够拿下焦灼比赛,否则我们不能成为总冠军竞争者。

[-]Attey21

100% true and it's been the same story the last 5 years with us. We don't have anyone that can actually close out games.

100%正确,在过去5年里我们的情况一直如此,球队里没有任何人能够真正杀死比赛。

[-]JoeIngles

Donovan not being the clutch player he thinks he is is the reason we are a lot worse than we should be.

We need a joe Johnson type player who isn’t our top 2 options, but insanely clutch. Because Donovan isn’t it. 29 points on 31 shots is terrible

米切尔没有成为他自认为的那种关键球员,这就是我们比理想状况要差很多的原因。

我们需要一个单打乔式的球员,这名球员可以不是我们的前二选择,但在关键时刻很硬。

米切尔不是这样的球员。31次出手得到29分是很差劲的。


[-]PrecisionAcc

What’s the point of having clutch players (Bogey, Mike) if we keep defaulting to Donovan hero ball?

如果我们一直默许米切尔投英雄球,那么拥有大心脏球员(博扬、康利)的意义何在?

[-]Suspicious-Light2495

This is on Quin. He's the one that always draws up plays for him at the end.

这都赖斯耐德,他在最后时刻总给米切尔制定战术。

[-]chupacadabradoo

And that was a great design. And it wouldn’t work for Conley, because he’s not the athlete Donovan is to get around the double screen and catch the ball within a 15 foot radius the way Don can. It was the right call, even though Conley had been hot. Plus Don needs to keep plugging away in the clutch to have a breakthrough. Get out of his own head.

那是一个很棒的战术设计,而且它不适用于康利,因为康利不像米切尔那样健壮,他不能像多诺万那样绕过包夹,在15英尺内接球。尽管康利今晚手感火热,但这是一个正确的战术。另外,米球需要在关键时刻继续努力才能有所突破。让自己更自信更果断。


[-]JinglesHardWood

Royce passing up that wide open 3, and electing to run out the clock and take a worse shot perfectly explains why we collapse in tight games.

罗伊斯.奥尼尔没投那个空位三分,他选择耗尽时间并采取更差的投篮选择,这就是我们输掉焦灼比赛的原因。

[-]Morsey__

2nd times he’s done this

他第二次这样做了

[-]OnEMoReTrY121

2nd? That’s his M.O.

第二次?这是他的一贯作风。

[-]Denotsyek

Can someone please explain to me why Royce gets so much hate in this sub? I don't get it. I really don't . He is a role player for 8 mil a year that is our 2nd best defensemen, and 1st in 3 point percentage. Yes I agree he should've taken the shot. I wanted him to take that shot. That's his shot. But it seems like every post game thread has negative Royce feedback. why? Am I taking crazy pills? Is he not an incredible deal? $8 million player. Who do you replace him with? The dude is a starter and they dont even sale his jersey in the team store. I went in and asked for an oneal jersey and they said "we dont have a utah shaq jersey". I will no longer stand for this vile slander and disrespect! Royce Oneal is a great player at a great price with great potential.

谁能向我解释一下,为什么罗伊斯在专区里这么招人恨?我不明白。我真的不明白。他是一个年薪800万的角色球员,是我们第二好的防守者,而且三分命中率第一。是的,我也觉得他应该出手那球,我希望他能出手,那是他的绝佳机会。但是似乎每场比赛后专区都在批斗罗伊斯.奥尼尔,为什么?难道是我疯了?他难道不是超值合同吗?八百万的球员,你们想让谁来代替他?这家伙是首发球员,但球队商店里却没有他的球衣,我进去问他们要一件奥尼尔的球衣,他们说: "没有沙克.奥尼尔的爵士球衣。"我忍不了这种卑鄙的诽谤和不尊重了!罗伊斯.奥尼尔是一个伟大的球员,他价值很高,潜力很大。

[-]JinglesHardWood

1st of all this isn’t hate, it’s criticism, those are two very different things. I love Royce I just think he needs to step up and take those shots when he has to. Second of all Royce is not a player who has “potential”. He is turning 29 this year.

首先我们不是讨厌他,只是批评,这是两件完全不同的事情。我喜欢罗伊斯.奥尼尔,我只是认为他需要在关键时刻站出来,在必要的时候出手。第二,罗伊斯不是一个有 "潜力 "的球员,他今年已经29岁了。

[-]Denotsyek

His year to year stats keep gaining. I'm all in. Royce is bullish. To the moon. buy and hold. 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

他的数据在逐年增加,我全买他了。罗伊斯是看涨的,飞涨吧!买入他然后长期持有。

🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

[-]Due_Weight_684

Lol man you are delusional really

笑死,妄想症。

[-]junkaccount123456543

I’d rather have House out there and he was on the scrap heap. Royce is a fine player but probably not cut out for his current role. Ideally, he’d play 12-15 minutes. One issue is he is small and that might be ok but Donovan and Conley are also small. Not many teams close with two 6’1” guys and a maybe 6’4” guy.

He also seems to come up small or make terrible decisions in critical moments.

虽然豪斯是我们从垃圾堆淘来的,但我宁愿让豪斯代替罗伊斯.奥尼尔出场。罗伊斯.奥尼尔是个好球员,但可能不适合他目前的角色。理想情况下他应该打12-15分钟。一个问题是他矮,这本来不是大毛病,但米切尔和康利也很矮。没有几支球队用两个185的和一个大概193的球员打关键时刻。

他在关键时刻似乎也会出现小动作或做出糟糕的决定。


[-]Tibs921

Hate to say it, but Mitchell might be the worst clutch player this year.

讨厌这么说,但米切尔今年的关键时刻表现可能是最差的。

[-]rbmw263

not even a maybe

把可能去了。

[-]ReplacementPuzzled57

Yup. Been saying this for a while. He can hit shots when there’s 1-2 minutes left in the game, sure, but I have seen too many times where there is <10 seconds left on the clock and either takes an ill-advised shot or turns it over.

是的。这已经说了好一阵子了。他当然可以在比赛还剩1-2分钟时把球投进,但我已经看到了太多次,在还剩不到10秒的时候,他不是无脑强投就是运球失误。

[-]TantalizingYak

which is why I think his scorching shooting percentages in the playoffs was a fluke

这就是为什么我认为他在季后赛中火热的手感纯属侥幸。

[-]The3rdeyenotBLIND

Jazz have no chance if Don is not a clutch player. Now, that backcourt 8 second violation he had in the bubble against Denver is playing in my mind once again😐

如果米球不会打关键球那爵士没有任何机会。今天的场景让我想起在园区和掘金打季后赛时他的八秒违例😐

[-]Baker626

And remember he got his pocket picked the play right before mikes infamous buzzer beater miss.

还记得康利抢七投丢的压哨绝杀吧,米切尔在前一个回合丢球了。


[-]rc_cola34

Y’all are brutal we just lost by 6 missing 2 rotation guys against a healthy bucks team. Everyone in the thread complaining about Donovan better not say shit in the playoffs when he clutches up like always.

The biggest failure I see tonight is not using giannis’s foul trouble. We put him in maybe 1 situation where he could have fouled after he picked up his 5th. We also can’t afford to pass on wide open shots and if Royce doesn’t get that he can’t be out there in clutch moments.

That was a good game and everyone acting like we choked. We shot 39% end of story.

Edit: house just being able to play lets Donovan use less energy in game and I promise more of his shots fall. Hard making up for our best shooter and a great wing being out and him and mike did a commendable job.

你们都太残忍了,我们缺少两个轮换球员对阵健康的雄鹿队而且只输了6分。所有在热线里喷米切尔的人最好在季后赛米切尔超神的时候闭上你们的狗嘴。

我认为今晚最大的失策是没有利用扬尼斯的犯规麻烦。在他第5次犯规后,我们只有一次给他带来了犯规威胁。我们也不能放弃空位投篮,如果罗伊斯不明白这一点就别让他在关键时刻出场。

这是一场精彩的比赛,但你们说得好像球队很差劲。我们的投篮命中率为39%,这就是输的原因。

编辑:豪斯在场能减少米切尔的体力消耗,我保证这能让米切尔的投篮效率提高。米切尔和康利值得称赞,他们的表现弥补了球队最好的射手和一个优秀侧翼的缺席。

[-]grollate

People will blame Mitchell for this one, but I blame whoever made that post about Jazz winning four straight against Milwaukee. What a reckless post in the middle of the game! Nobody can recover from that strong a jinx!

人们会把这场失利归咎于米切尔,但我要喷那个“爵士对雄鹿四连胜”的帖子。在比赛中这帖子也太晦气了!没有人能够从这口毒奶中缓过来。

[-]chris_b_critter

No loss is acceptable. Ever. I don’t understand this mentality. Losing is for losers, no matter the circumstance. I just don’t get the “well that was really fun! Too bad we lost” crowd.

没有任何失利是可以接受的,永远没有。我不明白这种心态。无论在什么情况下,输是失败者的事。我真不明白"好吧,这真的很有趣!可惜我们输了 "这类人。


[-]alavalle00

We needed an L here so in the finals they/we can’t use the 21 year narrative to curse the game

我们需要一场败北,这样在决赛中他们和我们都不用忍受这口21年的毒奶。

[-]Tjohnson113

Bold of u to assume the jazz are making the finals

你竟敢假设爵士打进总决赛。


[-]freddiespaghet

I was having a good time watching my shorthanded team just barely lose an amazing team. Then I visited this sub and I'm no longer having a good time. You guys are so toxic and depressing it's not even funny

我的主队缺兵少将惜败一支顶级球队,我看比赛的时候本来挺满意的,然后我点进专区,现在我一点都不高兴,你们这些人嘴臭而且丧气,你们的帖子一点都不好笑。

[-]SomePoorGamer

This season has been crushing. Coming off the high from last season (playoffs not included) this has been disappointing. We are going to get swept in the playoffs if we don't learn how to play in the clutch. I don't even know who's fault it is anymore. Fire Quin? Maybe idk. Rumor has it he goes to San Antonio next season anyway so maybe we don't have to. Let Alex English or someone totally new have a crack at it. Switch up the roster a bit. If your name isn't Donovan Mitchell or Rudy Gobert then they should be avaliable for trade. The FO has to see that something is not working here. I can't watch 5 more years of Ty Corbin era Jazz.

Signed. An upset fan after a loss.

I'll be Jazzed back up on Wednesday when we play again. Tis' fandom.

这个赛季已经没戏了。从上个赛季的高峰中一路走下坡路(不包括季后赛),这让人失望。如果我们不学会如何在关键时刻发挥,我们将在季后赛中被横扫。我甚至不知道这是谁的错了。炒掉师奶?也许吧,我不知道。有传言说他下个赛季会去马刺,所以也许我们不需要这样做。让亚历克斯.英格利什(掘金名宿,名人堂球员,曾任多支球队助教)或一个新人做教练吧。把球队大名单清理一遍,除了多诺万.米切尔和鲁迪.戈贝尔其他人都可以交易。管理层必须意识到有些东西在这支球队里并不奏效。我不想再看五年泰伦.科宾时代的爵士了。

落款:一个输球后郁郁寡欢的球迷。

周三爵士再打比赛的时候我就会重新振作起来。这就是真球迷。


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顺便说一下,需要有人告诉米切尔,他在关键时刻的真实命中率在136人(出场20场以上的球员)中排名112,倒数20%。而在使用率不低于25%的球员中,他排名倒数第一。

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确实需要一个17年的iso joe 关键时刻就需要球星单打杀死比赛米切尔的出手选择真的太差了 关键时刻越靠近篮筐肯定比干拔三分好

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