马努-吉诺比利:国际篮球比赛历史上最伟大的非美国籍球员。
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Manu Ginobili makes the buzzer beater for Argentina to beat Serbia in Athens 2004 Summer Olympics
[高光时刻] 2004年雅典夏季奥运会,马努吉诺比利绝杀阿根廷战胜塞尔维亚。
Kypster13
That shot still amazes me. It’s only like a 5 footer, but the speed and angle he’s at makes it such a bizarre shot. Also essentially having to do a tip in shot to beat the buzzer. Just crazy.
那个镜头还是让我吃惊。这只是一个 5 英尺外的投篮,但他的出手速度和角度使它成为如此怪异的投篮,也基本上必须投篮击中打板区才能绝杀败,疯了。
FermatsLastAccount
Manu was an expert at hitting crazy shots like that
马努是一个投高难度球的专家。
Mattsasse
He could somehow make his lower body move really fast while his upper body did things in slow motion.
A true wizard with the ball in his hands.
他可以通过某种方式让他的下半身快速移动,而他的上半身则以慢动作做事。
一个手里拿着球的巫师。
moosehunter22
there was an San Antonio Austin musician that had a Manu Ginobili song that referred to him as a "hyena on a trampoline" and it's one of my favorite player descriptions ever
有一个圣安东尼奥 奥斯汀音乐家有一首马努-吉诺比利的歌,称他为“蹦床上的鬣狗”,这是我最喜欢的球员描述之一。
RUSSlANpropaganda
I’ve never seen this clip before, it’s literally the most manu play I’ve ever seen.
This looks like a comedy sketch describing why he’s going to the HOF.
That coach running too mygod. 10/10 clip I love this sub in the off-season so much more 😭
我以前从未见过这个片段,这简直是我见过的最马努的比赛。
这看起来像一个喜剧小品,描述的是他为什么要进入名人堂。
那位教练跑得太神了。10/10的片段,在休赛期看了这个片段让我更喜欢他了😭。
Relyst
Incredible shot. The balance, the touch, all while moving at that speed. Manu could've put up 30 a night in the NBA if he wanted to.
令人难以置信的投篮。平衡性,触球的感觉,同时以这样的速度移动。如果马努愿意的话,他本可以在NBA一个晚上投进30球。
BornToDoDishes
Yeah, 99% of the time he was in the finishing lineup with Tony and Duncan. He came off the bench because his bizarre playmaker/scoring guard play-style elevated everyone who shared the floor with him - putting that against a second unit not only elevates the second unit, but makes teams second units or tired starters face off against what what we just saw in the clip.
Playoff time he was more often than not right there next to Tony and Tim, at least early in his NBA career.
是的,99%的时间他都和托尼和邓肯一起在终结阵容。他从板凳上下来,因为他那怪异的打法/得分后卫的打法提升了所有与他同场竞技的人--把这种打法放在第二阵容中,不仅提升了第二阵容,而且提高球队第二阵容或应对疲惫的首发球员得情况,就像我们刚才在片段中看到的情况。
季后赛时间,他更多的时候是在托尼和蒂姆身边,至少在他NBA职业的生涯早期。
Embriash
Some context to this shot, and why there was so much pent-up emotion (seen especially on Argentina's coach Rubén Magnano): these two teams had already played the final game of the 2002 Indianapolis FIBA World Championship.
At the time representing Yugoslavia and led by one of the best players to not have played in the NBA, Dejan Bodiroga, they had knocked out the US in quarterfinals (with the likes of Paul Pierce, Michael Finley, Reggie Miller and Jermaine O'Neal among others), an American team that was shook after losing to Argentina the previous game in group stage. On the other hand, Argentina had a tough way to the final, grinding a win against Dirk's Germany in the semifinals. Manu rolled his ankle at the end of that game, so it was a bittersweet win because that injury would force him to sit out the game for the gold against Yugoslavia. A hard-fought game, in which Argentina led for most of the fourth quarter, ended with Bodiroga carrying Yugoslavia to tie the game at 75, and then some controversy as there were some plays that the Argentine players felt were not refereed properly. Yugoslavia forced the overtime, in which they showed their experience to finish the game off and get the gold.
So it's now the 2004 Olympics, and these two teams (representing Serbia and Montenegro were most of the players from the 2002 Yugoslavia team) face again in group stage. Manu has a chip on his shoulder, after being unable to play and having to watch his team fail to get the gold. The game was again super physical and hard-fought, and it ended how it's seen on this video. So for most of those Argentine players and coaches, this was the "revenge" after the 2002 disappointment. And for Manu personally, even with all his NBA accolades, he has called this "the shot of his career."
这个镜头的一些背景,以及为什么有这么多压抑的情绪(特别是在阿根廷教练鲁文-马格纳诺身上看到):这两支球队已经在2002年印第安纳波利斯国际篮联世界锦标赛上打过一场比赛。
当时,在由没有在NBA打过球的最佳球员之一德扬-博迪罗加带领他们代表得南斯拉夫在四分之一决赛中淘汰了美国队(其中有保罗-皮尔斯、迈克尔-芬利、雷吉-米勒和杰梅因-奥尼尔等人),这支美国队在小组赛中输给阿根廷后受到了震动。另一方面,阿根廷队进入决赛的道路也很艰难,在半决赛中碾压德克的德国队,取得了胜利。马努在那场比赛结束时轧伤了脚踝,所以这是一场苦乐参半的胜利,因为这一伤势将迫使他缺席对南斯拉夫的夺金比赛。一场艰苦的比赛,阿根廷在第四节的大部分时间里都处于领先,最后由博迪罗加带着南斯拉夫队将比分扳成75平,然后出现了一些争议,因为有一些比赛阿根廷球员认为裁判没有正确判罚。南斯拉夫被迫进入加时赛,在加时赛中,他们展示了自己的经验,完成了比赛并获得了金牌。
所以现在是2004年奥运会,这两支球队(代表塞尔维亚和黑山的是2002年南斯拉夫队的大部分球员)在小组赛中再次相遇。因为马努有他不能上场,不得不看着他的球队未能获得金牌的经历,所以这场比赛又是超强的体能和艰苦的战斗,它的结局就像在这个视频上看到的那样。因此,对于大多数阿根廷球员和教练来说,这是对2002年失望后的 "复仇"。而对于马努个人来说,即使他在NBA获得了所有的荣誉,他也称这是 "他职业生涯的一球"。
WeathrNinja
One of the greatest Olympic performers of all time and arguably the greatest non-American hero in the history of international basketball competition.
有史以来最伟大的奥运运动员之一,可以说是国际篮球比赛历史上最伟大的非美国英雄。
MasterTeacher123
Leading Argentina to the gold is one of the GOAT basketball accomplishments.
带领阿根廷队夺得金牌,是篮球界的一项伟大成就。
GreatStuffOnly
I think oversea stars view national sport with a lot more importance than club/league.
I’m sure that Luka would want a gold for Slovenia than chip with Mavs first.
This is more prevalent in other sports such as soccer where the prestige of national > club achievement.
我认为海外球星对国家体育的重视程度远远超过俱乐部/联赛。
我敢肯定,卢卡希望为斯洛文尼亚夺得金牌,而不是先与独行侠筹划球队。
这种情况在其他运动中更为普遍,比如足球,国家队的威望>俱乐部的成就。
larrylegend33goat
Aussie men basketball stoked at their Bronze medal and French men their silver. Next Olympics going to be so good. Seems very even with Spain and Argentina losing some older players while Slovenia rising. Top 8 could be very spicy and we could see a Manu 2.0 where USA don't win gold
澳大利亚男篮获得铜牌,法国男篮获得银牌。下一届奥运会会如此精彩。即使西班牙和阿根廷失去了一些老球员,但是斯洛文尼亚正在崛起,这似乎也很正常。前8名可能竞争异常激烈,我们可以看到第二个击败美国的马努。
Ramzaa_
It honestly might be one of the most impressive feats in basketball history. Manu (and Scola) took down a team USA with Kobe, AI, Melo, Wade, Lebron, and Duncan.
It's so understated. On paper they had no business even making a game with team USA competitive.
Manu was a 57th pick and Scola was a 56th pick for context.
Edit: Misremembered Kobe being on the 2004 USA team
老实说,这可能是篮球历史上最令人印象深刻的壮举之一。马努(和斯科拉)击败了一支有AI、甜瓜、韦德、勒布朗和邓肯的美国队科比。
在纸面阵容上,他们甚至没有与美国队竞争比赛的水平。
马努在第57顺位被选中,斯科拉在第56顺位被选中。
MaybeAlexisOhanian
Talk show host: Who wins in a fight: a hurricane or Manu Ginobili?
Spurs Superfans: GINOBILI!
Host: Wait--The hurricane's name is "Hurricane Ginobili."
Spurs Superfans: Hmmm...
脱口秀主持人:谁在战斗中获胜:飓风还是马努吉诺比利?
马刺球迷:吉诺比利!
主持人:等等——飓风的名字是“飓风吉诺比利”。
马刺球迷:嗯……
maaseru
One of my favorite plays ever along with his block of Harden that one time.
That block might be one of the best blocks I've ever seen because of how it took the air out of the whole team.
我最喜欢的比赛之一是有一次他对哈登的死亡封盖。
那个盖帽可能是我见过的最好的盖帽之一,因为它让整个球队都喘不过气来。
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