【众生相】老里:乔丹是最伟大的球员,老詹有最伟大的职业生涯,你赞同吗?
昨天在湖人主场迎战76人比赛前,76人主帅道格-里弗斯接受ESPN记者Dave McMenamin采访时,谈到对乔丹和詹姆斯的看法时,里弗斯表示:“我认为乔丹是最伟大的球员,但这并不影响勒布朗。勒布朗已经拥有NBA历史上最伟大的职业生涯”。引来热议,一起来看看球迷如何评论!
Two three peats haven’t been done since Jordan, and we haven’t seen a 3-peat since Kobe & Shaq
自乔丹以来,还没有出现过两次三连冠,而自科比和奥尼尔以来,我们还没有看到过三连冠。
True Lebron beat teams like 73-9 Warriors and Spurs both teams with like 4 HoF and best coaches of all time.
确实,勒布朗击败了像拥有73胜9负战绩的勇士和马刺这样的球队,这两支球队都有4个名人堂球员和有史以来最佳主教练。
72-10 has a ring to it tho!
72胜10负赛季得到一个总冠军戒指!
Name a player from a different sport that had the greatest career but isn’t the greatest player
说出一位来自不同运动项目的球员,他拥有最伟大的职业生涯,但他不是最伟大的球员。
I’m an MJ man but I think from a statistical perspective this is correct, he will have better stats ie, points, rebounds, assists etc. Depends how you look at success. MJ achieved more (chips, MVPs, Scorring titles etc) in way less time than.
我是一名乔丹球迷,但我认为从数据统计角度来看,这是正确的,他(詹姆斯)会有更好的数据,如得分、篮板、助攻等,这取决于你如何看待成功。乔丹在更短的时间内获得了更多(总冠军、MVP、得分王等)。
He mixing up the players. MJ had the greatest career but Lebron is the greatest player
他把球员搞混乱了。乔丹拥有最伟大的职业生涯,但勒布朗是最伟大的球员。
MJ higher peak, LeBron longer peak. Greatest just a question of what you value more, there's no objective measurement for it
乔丹的巅峰更强,勒布朗的巅峰更长。最伟大的取决于你更重视哪个方面,没有客观的衡量标准。
Jordan career is still untouchable, Jordan didn’t run away from competition or have to join forces with other all stars and create his own team. As great of a talent Lebron James was he ruined his own legacy the moment he joined Miami with Bosh and everything he done since then.
乔丹的职业生涯仍然是不可触及的,乔丹没有逃避竞争,也没有与其他全明星联手,创建自己的球队。尽管勒布朗-詹姆斯是个伟大的天才球员,但在他与波什加入迈阿密的那一刻起,他就毁掉了自己的历史地位,以及此后他所做的一切。
Greatest career is Kareem winning on all levels of basketball. HS, college, pro, Olympics
最伟大的职业生涯是贾巴尔,在所有级别的篮球比赛中获胜。高中、大学、职业、奥运会。
Greatest doesn't mean Best. Ali was the greatest, but not close to being the best of all time
最伟大并不意味着最好,(拳王)阿里是最伟大的,但离历史最佳还有一定距离。
If we’re talking about sustained greatness over a 20-year period, you have to put Kareem, Kobe, & Duncan into that discussion.
如果我们谈论的是持续20年的伟大成就,你必须把贾巴尔、科比和邓肯纳入讨论。
Lebron year 20: 29pts/8.4rb/6.8ast
Kobe year 20: 17.6pts/3.7rb/2.8 ast
勒布朗第20个赛季:场均29分8.4篮板6.8助攻
科比第20个赛季:场均17.6分3.7篮板2.8助攻。
Michael’s the greatest player. LeBron’s the best athlete.
迈克尔-乔丹是最伟大的球员。勒布朗是最好的运动员。
38k/10k/10k for his career now. Nobody by a mile touches these numbers 🤣
现在他的职业生涯有38K/10K/10K,没有人能够触及这样的数据。
People are literally too scared to say Lebron is the GOAT out of fear of pack mentality criticism. Saying “but I still think Jordan is the GOAT” is like nba virtue signaling
人们真的太害怕说勒布朗是GOAT,因为害怕被大家批评。说“但我仍然认为乔丹是GOAT”就像是NBA的美德信号。
He's saying that Jordan had a better peak, which is true. But Lebron had the longer career, while still maintaining a high level of play. This is also true.
他是说乔丹有一个更强的巅峰,这是事实。但勒布朗的职业生涯更长,同时仍然保持着高水平的比赛,这也是事实。
I actually think it’s the exact opposite - Michael had a better career but Lebron is the better talent
实际上,我认为这恰恰相反--迈克尔有更好的职业生涯,但勒布朗是更好的天才球员。
Hard to make this case IMO when Jordan retired 2 times in his prime while Lebron has never take a season off.
乔丹在他的巅峰时期退役了2次,而勒布朗却从未休息过一个赛季,这很难让人信服。
Bill Russell : greatest career
Michael Jordan : greatest player
LeBron James : won in Cleveland
比尔-拉塞尔:最伟大的职业生涯
迈克尔-乔丹:最伟大的球员
勒布朗-詹姆斯 : 在克利夫兰获胜
Mayweather and Federer, best in their careers but not the greatest in their sports
梅威瑟和费德勒,他们的职业生涯最好,但不是他们该项运动中最伟大的。
it's sad that people don't want to talk about this MJ resume him being ELIMINATED
'84: 1st round'85: 1st round'86: 1st round'87: 2nd round'88: 3rd round'89: 3rd round'94: 2nd round'01 & '02: didn't make playoffsClearly, MJ is 2nd to goat LeBron 🐐Facts don’t lie.
可悲的是,人们不愿意谈论乔丹的这些履历:84年:第一轮出局;85年: 第一轮出局;86年: 第一轮出局;87年: 第二轮出局;88年: 第三轮出局;89年: 第三轮出局;94年: 第二轮出局;01年 & 02年:没进季后赛;很明显,乔丹是GOAT詹姆斯之后的第二名,事实不会说谎。
Michael Jordan won 6 NBA Titles, Lebron LOST 6 NBA Titles
迈克尔-乔丹赢得了6个NBA总冠军,勒布朗失去了6个NBA总冠军。
Can’t have a better career than those who stood on their teams through adversity. His career isn’t better than Kobe, Duncan, Curry, MJ, Dirk and possibly Giannis. Maybe his legacy will be great but career? Nah I feel like I’m getting them backwards 😂
没有比那些在逆境中扛起球队的人有更好的职业了。他的职业生涯并不比科比、邓肯、库里、乔丹、德克和字母哥好。也许他的历史地位会很棒,但职业生涯呢?不,我觉得我把它们弄反了。
Hes definitely had the greatest career. Do u know what a career is? Being on more than 1 team..does not lessen his career achievements. If someone has a great career in law or as a judge..it doesn't mean they've been with 1 court or law firm the whole time.
他的职业生涯绝对是最伟大的。你知道什么是职业生涯吗?在一个以上的球队效力,并没有减少他的职业生涯成就。如果一个人在法律领域或作为法官有一个伟大的职业生涯,这并不意味着他们一直在一个法院或律师事务所工作。
Sounds about right. Lebron is like a dude with a bunch of PhDs and degrees and best resume whereas MJ is Bill Gates/Elon Musk
听起来不错,勒布朗就像一个拥有博士学位和最好简历的家伙,而乔丹则是比尔·盖茨/埃伦·马斯克。
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