【洛城里】老詹应该至少有8个MVP,你是否同意?外网:我也这么说迈克尔·乔丹
美媒Legion Hoops发问,The Athletic记者Tony Jones谈到詹姆斯,他觉得詹姆斯应该拥有至少8个MVP,你是否同意这个观点?值得一提的是,詹姆斯职业生涯分别在2008-2009赛季、2009-2010赛季、2011-2012赛季和2012-2013赛季,获得过四次常规赛MVP,要想提高到8次MVP,现在应该是不可能了,我们来看看球迷们有什么看法!
He should have 8 to 10 championships the way people talk about him
人们总是说他本该有8到10个冠军。
He should def have more than 4 that's for sure
肯定应该比4个多。
D Rose deserved his MVP. He was missing two of his important players for the majority of the season and still had a better record than the Heat. Wade averaged 26ppg and the Heat still did worse than the Bulls.
罗斯应该得那个MVP。他缺少了两个强力队友,但公牛的战绩仍然比热火更好。韦德场均得到26分,但热火的战绩仍然不如公牛。
Bulls were second in defense that year and had 3 guys receive votes for DPoY. Bron had better stats across the board and was by far a better defender than Rose Heat were also learning on the fly as they were a brand new team and system and still only had 4 less wins.
公牛在那一年的防守排名第二,并且有三个人获得了最佳防守球员的提名。詹姆斯的各项统计数据都更好,而且他是比罗斯更好的防守球员。热火在当时是一个全新的球队和体系,他们只比公牛少赢了4场比赛。
Wade averaged 26 ppg, was a top ten player at the time, and Lebron still had a worse record than the Bulls. You also keep ignoring that Rose was missing Carlos Boozer and Joekim Noah for a large part of the season and Rise still led the Bulls to 62 wins.
韦德场均得到26分,是当时联盟前十的球员,而詹姆斯的战绩仍然比公牛差。你还忽略了罗斯在赛季的大部分时间里缺少卡洛斯·布泽尔和诺阿的帮助,但他仍然带领公牛赢得了62场比赛。
At least . I said same thing about MJ ..
至少。我也这么说迈克尔·乔丹。
When you form superteams full of All-Stars and Hall of Famers to win, you don't deserve MVP awards.
当你的队伍靠巨星抱团来获胜时,你就不应该获得MVP奖。
and Shaq should have at least 3. What about Kobe? What about Jordan?
MVP IS NOT ABOUT WHO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE AND NEVER WAS ABOUT THAT!
It's regular season award with some perspective like "what previous MVP" did in the playoffs.
奥尼尔至少应该有3个。那科比呢?乔丹呢? MVP并不是关于谁是联盟最好的球员,也从来不是这样! 它是一个常规赛奖项,比如“常规赛的MVP”在季后赛中表现如何。
Shaq deserved the award in 2001, as well as maybe 1999 and 2005. Can’t really say there’s another year Kobe should have gotten it. Mike probably deserved it in either 1989 or 1990.
奥尼尔在2001年应该获得MVP,以及1999年和2005年可能也应该。很难说哪一年科比应该得到MVP。乔丹可能在1989年或1990年应该得到。
He should have at least 6 if we being honest
说实话,他至少应该有6个冠军。
Realistically he should have on every MVP except for 2016, 2017 and 2019 during his prime
实际上,在他的巅峰时期,他应该获得所有的MVP奖项,除了2016年、2017年和2019年。
He actually should have 0
2009 = DWade
2010 = Kobe
2012 = KD
2013 = Melo
他一个都不该拿
2009年给韦德
2010年给科比
2012年给KD
2013年给甜瓜
Agree. He did what every MVP should do. Get your team to the playoffs and be the dominant reason why they are there. Be seen as the one player that can get the average NBA team to the Playoffs if he is on the team.
他做到了每个最有价值球员应该做的事情。将你的球队带进季后赛,并且是他们能进入季后赛的主要原因。被视为一名球员,如果他在球队中,可以将普通的NBA球队带进季后赛。
At least? 8? That's a reach.
A much more compelling argument is the 5 consecutive MVP seasons: 2009-2013
Objectively, there were no more than 7 regular seasons when he was the most impactful & most valuable individual player in the league.
(Kareem had 10, Jordan had 9 seasons)
至少?8个?那是真的牛逼。
一个更有说服力的观点是连续5个MVP赛季:2009-2013。客观地说,只有7个赛季常规赛他是联盟中最具影响力和最有价值的个人球员。(贾巴尔有10个赛季,乔丹有9个赛季)
"Only" 7 seasons as from 2015 onward, he started to approach the regular seasons slightly differently. He didn't value them as much and didn't exert as much energy, thus keeping enough in the tank to be able to flip the switch in the postseason. It has paid dividends for him.
“只有”7个赛季,因为从2015年开始,他对常规赛的态度就变了。他不像以前那样重视它们,也没有像以前那样发挥出足够的实力,因此在季后赛时保留了足够的体力。这为他带来了回报。
The only year you could argue for is 2011 year, but remember the Heat underachieved and the Bulls overachieved. Being the best player on the best team that was slept on before the season is more MVP worthy than being on a team that was supposed to run through the NBA but didn’t.
唯一有争议的就是2011年,但是请记住,当年 热火队表现不佳,公牛队表现出色。在一支在赛季开始之前被低估的队伍,比在一支被认为可以横扫NBA但最终没能如愿的球队更值得MVP。
That’s true, how does Lebron play 20 years in the league but only win 4 MVPs?? League is clearly rigged
是真的,詹姆斯在联盟打了20年,但只赢了4次MVP??联盟显然被操控了
Because he’s not the greatest of his era. He’s only dominated finals appearances not wins. Also he’s almost always had great all star talent around him.
因为他不是这个时代最伟大的球员。他只在总决赛中占据主导地位,而不是胜利。此外,他几乎一直有很多全明星级别的球员在身边。
“dominated finals appearances not wins.” LeBron James holds the record for the most playoff wins in nba history
“主导总决赛而不是赢得总决赛。”詹姆斯保持着NBA历史上大多数季后赛胜利的纪录
Also holds the record for the most finals losses in history amongst any player ever considered great. And let’s not act like lebron didn’t play with all stars and previous champions
在所有被认为伟大的球员中,他还拥有历史上最多的总决赛失败纪录。我们不要假装詹姆斯没有和之前的冠军球员一起打过球。
LeBron should have won MVP atleast 2 more times, in the 2019/20 season and in the 2005/6 season. Then LeBron should have won the DPOY in the 2012/13 season when he got robbed
詹姆斯应该至少再赢2次MVP,在2019/20赛季和2005/6赛季。然后詹姆斯应该在2012/13赛季赢得年度最佳防守球员,但他没有得到。
Obviously more than what he has probably 6 MVPs he hasn’t won a league MVP since 2013 and Jordan should have at least 7 MVPs but now the MVP is watered down from the so called media that get to vote it should be the players and coaches voting
显然他应该有6个MVP奖项,但自2013年以来没有赢得过MVP了,乔丹也至少应该有7个MVP。但现在MVP奖项被媒体投票弄水了,应该只由球员和教练投票。
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· 河北2010-2011赛季 ,在常规赛MVP的票选中:罗斯以37.57%的得票率排名第一,罗斯获得了113张选票,总得分1182分,排名第一。公牛战绩 62—20,联盟第一; 2、德怀特-霍华德:得票率20.44%,场均22.9分+14.1篮板+2.4盖帽;而霍华德获总得分643分,排名第二。魔术战绩52-30,东部第4; 3、勒布朗-詹姆斯:得票率16.59%,场均26.7分+7.5篮板+7.0助攻;詹姆斯获总得分522分,排名屈居第三。热火战绩58—24,东部第3。 公牛魔术都是只有一个全明星,而热火有三个!
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