【西海岸】美媒:邓肯和奥尼尔谁是更伟大的球员?球迷:邓肯被低估了
邓肯是NBA历史上有名的常青树,也是NBA历史上忠诚的代名词,他一手帮助马刺建立王朝,又在功成名就后深藏功与名,作为NBA历史第一大前锋,他在联盟中为自己立下了不朽的丰碑,而在本世纪初,湖人的奥尼尔也一度是他的劲敌,这位NBA历史上可能是统治力最强的中锋和邓肯一起为我们贡献了许多历史名局。今日,美媒Legion Hoops晒出了邓肯生涯的荣誉,并提问:邓肯和奥尼尔谁是NBA历史上更伟大的球员?这个问题立刻引发了球迷们的热烈讨论,球迷们纷纷表示:邓肯绝对被低估了。
[1]“我想说的是,鲨鱼在身体素质上更有统治力,但邓肯在整体上更出色。
奥尼尔可以在任何球场上统治任何禁区,但邓肯在整个职业生涯中都更有效率,他可以拉开空间,罚球命中率更高,当谈到盖帽和篮板时,他们的数据是一样的
你永远找不到另一个球员不害怕在内线和奥尼尔交手,这个人是最可怕的。”
I’d say Shaq was more dominant physicality wise, but Duncan was a better overall basketball player.
Shaq could dominate any paint he was in on any court, but Duncan was more efficient throughout his career, spreading the floor, free throw percentage, and their numbers were identical when it came to blocks and rebounds
You’ll never find a player who wasn’t afraid of playing Shaq on the inside though, the man was terrifying to watch in the best way
[-]“除了罚球之外,邓肯没有什么比奥尼尔更强的了。”
There is just about nothing Duncan did better than Shaq individually aside from free throws
[--]“助攻,罚球命中率,3分命中率,一系列高阶数据,比赛场数
荣誉对比:总冠军5-4,全明星10-8,最佳阵容15-14,防阵15-3,MVP2-1
准备好再来一遍吗?”
Assists,Free Throw %,3pt %,Stlpg,DRbpg,BMP,VORP,TOR,PF,Games PlayedAccolades: Champ 5x to 4,10x 1st All NBA to 8,15x All NBA to 14,15x All Def to 3,2x MVP to 1
Care to try again?
[4]“邓肯>奥尼尔。
历史最佳大前锋。”
Tim Duncan > Shaq.
Best PF of all time.
[-]“首先邓肯是马刺的第三个大个子,他是中锋。这意味着他甚至不是历史前五的中锋。他被高估了。在他的整个职业生涯中,有一位名人堂教练和一支完美的球队在他身边,适配体系的球员,如果他在森林狼队打球,他就什么都不是。”
First off Duncan was THEE big man on the spurs. He's a center. Which means he's not even top 5 all time centers. He's so overrated. Had a hall of fame coach and the perfect team around him his whole career. System player. If he played for the timberwolves he'd be nobody
[--]“很多伟大的球员都和伟大的教练一起互相成就,在邓肯到来之前马刺也不是什么完美的球队。他们没有拿过冠军,最好的成绩是在1995年。”
Many greats played with all time great coaches clown and the spurs weren’t some perfect team before Duncan arrived. They won zero championships and best they made it far was in 1995.
[7]对位数据统计:
还有……真实命中率
奥尼尔:58.6
邓肯:55.1
Side by side stats:
Also…TS%
Shaq: 58.6
Duncan: 55.1
[-]“即使巅峰期更短,鲨鱼也更强。”
Shaqs better even with a shorter prime
[-]“邓肯有更多的助攻,更多的篮板,更多的抢断,更多的盖帽……奥尼尔在巅峰时期绝对更有统治力,但邓肯整体上更强。”
Duncan had more assists, more rebounds, more steals, more blocks... Shaq was definitely more dominant in his prime but Duncan was the better overall player
[10]“邓肯是更好的球员。但奥尼尔的巅峰时期更为辉煌。邓肯在接下来的十年里已经足够接近巅峰水准,所以他获得了优势。”
Duncan is the better PLAYER. But shaq’s peak was greater. Duncan was close enough for a decade longer tho so he gets the edge
[-]”这个逻辑适用于乔丹和詹姆斯吗?只是好奇,问一下朋友。“
Does this logic apply to MJ and Lebron ? Just curious asking for a friend
[--]”哈哈,他在你想知道他的地方🤣。“
lol got him right where u want him🤣
[13]”1号种子的马刺输给了8号种子的孟菲斯灰熊。季后赛输给灰熊影响了邓肯的历史地位,至少在这种问题中是这样。“
1-seed Spurs lost to an 8-seed, Memphis team. That postseason loss to the Grizzlies affects TD’s legacy, at least in this sort of a conversation.
[-]”那个赛季邓肯35岁。35岁的奥尼尔在第一轮被公牛横扫(那是在赢得总冠军一年之后),公牛最好的球员是罗尔-邓。🤣“
Tim Duncan was 35 that season.Shaq at age 35 got swept in round 1 (wWade and a year after winning a title) by a Bulls team whose best player was Luol Deng
[--]”笑死我了🤣“
lmao🤣
[16]”明显是鲨鱼。“
shaq clears
[-]”数据和荣誉对比呢?“
Stats and accolades?
[--]”我想他指的是清理桌子或厕所,而不是邓肯,因为我是这么理解的。😜“
I think he meant clears tables or toilets compared to Duncan because that’s how I read it😜
[19]“低调的蒂姆-邓肯被低估了,考虑到他是大前锋的GOAT,雷-阿伦的救世主三分让他距离6-0也只有一步之遥。”
Tim Duncan is low key underrated which is wild considering he’s the goat Pf, one ray allen savior three away from being 6-0 too
[-]“如果他没有输掉那次总决赛,他就会成为GOAT讨论的一员。”
If he didn’t lose that finals he would be in the goat convo
做一辈子Protoss
· 江西邓肯在马刺二十年马刺从未低于50胜 除了缩水赛季在当年的西部50胜有多难篮球这项运动最终目的是赢球邓肯给球队的影响从战绩就能体现出来在这一点上邓肯比同时代所有人都强
以前的账号丢了
· 北京邓肯不如o+k但是o和k单拎出来说,取得的成就都不如邓肯。