给区里对线用,关于梅西的任意球水平(转自纯空间度规)(2)
凤凰城球员40米外一脚任意球得分,精彩至极!
这人是谁呢?大家都认识,这是非洲刘德华德罗巴,这时候他都40岁了……德华在英超进过漂亮的任意球,但是我相信40岁的他是绝无可能在英超打进这种任意球的(除非乔哈特守门,这是因果律武器,不在讨论范围),这球打的角度并不好,被门将低级失误扑进去了:
扑救触球瞬间,我真的找不到更清晰的视频了……
他甚至在凤凰城又打进一个40米开外的任意球(这是美国三级联赛……):
同样的角度并不好,也是被扑进去的:
来个反例,煤球这个落叶球没进:
换个不那么拼或者水平差的对手,这球九成九进了。
另外门将和人墙的水平也会影响任意球的选择,卡西这种门线技术好扑救反应快但是身高一般的门将就应该牺牲速度追求角度,换个反应慢点的,就可以额牺牲角度追求速度。那些打横梁的任意球很多就是为了过人墙后马上下坠,如果人墙没那么高或者投入,没必要那么追求角度多半就进了。
除了绝对死角的神仙球,以及根本不用扑的打飞机,门框范围内的任意球受到门将和人墙影响还是很大的。
还有一件事可以有力的佐证比赛档次对任意球的影响,米哈是大家公认的任意球大师,但是哪怕你搜中文媒体大部分也是43球,这比小罗、小贝他们六十几个少多了。原因是这位的数据几乎没注水,42个都是正式比赛进的,水分一去大家都是四十来个不就差不多了?米哈意甲生涯33+国家队9非常硬。如果按欧洲金靴那样算系数把大联盟、巴甲之类的降级,米哈要比小罗小贝略高半档,这也符合大家的印象。
另外小儒比较特别, 其他任意球大师都是绝对主力,他在国家队罚球机会不多比较吃亏。参考他的俱乐部进球数,如果是主力应该能进10个左右,数目比米哈多但是占了法甲、巴甲水平比较低的便宜,总体两人非常接近应该没有问题。
欧洲金靴的数目都要加联赛系数,即便如此,我还是以国际惯例为准,只去掉商业比赛、青年队比赛之类,保留大联盟、巴甲、墨超等数据。
下面我先列煤球的数据(包括累计、峰值和持续性三个维度),然后是小贝、小罗和小儒,以及米哈、皮尔洛、皮耶罗等不在图里但水平绝对够的球星证明我的论点,俱乐部数据来源德转,国家队来自视频查证,我一个个看过去的,每个球都有出处。一个个球看过去很费精力,所幸这几位进球都很精彩,看得也不枯燥。
贝利、济科等空了我一个个查证下,hupu有人搞过调查,结论是他们全都有很大水分,不过我不乱引用,自己查证再下结论。
明细如下(为视尊重,都贴一个代表作开头):
煤球(代表作前面有了,就贴个最喜欢的超大弧线落叶球):
俱乐部52球,两个在法甲,其他全在西甲,有三次梅开二度。
巅峰赛季18-19,8个。其次15-16、17-18,都是7个,再次19-20,5个。(不算国家队,下同。国家队穿插在赛季中,一个个核实到天工作量太大,所幸国家队占比少而且煤球也是最多的,不影响结论。)
Season 08/09
LaLiga 6 H FC Barcelona (5.) Atlético de Madrid Atlético Madrid (7.) 6:1 RW 8' 3:0
Season 09/10
UEFA Champions League Group Stage A FC Barcelona Dynamo Kyiv Dynamo Kyiv 1:2 RW 86' 1:2
LaLiga 25 A FC Barcelona (1.) UD Almería UD Almería (13.) 2:2 RW 42' 1:1
Season 10/11
LaLiga 18 A FC Barcelona (1.) Deportivo de La Coruña Dep. La Coruña (12.) 0:4 CF 51' 0:2
Season 11/12
LaLiga 25 A FC Barcelona (2.) Atlético de Madrid Atlético Madrid (5.) 1:2 CF 79' 1:2
LaLiga 30 A FC Barcelona (2.) RCD Mallorca RCD Mallorca (9.) 0:2 CF 25' 0:1
LaLiga 37 H FC Barcelona (2.) RCD Espanyol Barcelona Espanyol (13.) 4:0 CF 11' 1:0
Season 12/13
Supercopa final A FC Barcelona Real Madrid Real Madrid 2:1 CF 45' 2:1
LaLiga 7 H FC Barcelona (1.) Real Madrid Real Madrid (6.) 2:2 CF 60' 2:1
LaLiga 24 A FC Barcelona (1.) Granada CF Granada CF (14.) 1:2 CF 72' 1:2
LaLiga 34 H FC Barcelona (1.) Real Betis Balompié Real Betis (7.) 4:2 CF 60' 3:2
Season 13/14
UEFA Champions League Group Stage H FC Barcelona Ajax Amsterdam Ajax 4:0 CF 22' 1:0
LaLiga 26 H FC Barcelona (2.) UD Almería UD Almería (15.) 4:1 CF 24' 2:0
LaLiga 34 H FC Barcelona (3.) Athletic Bilbao Athletic (4.) 2:1 CF 74' 2:1
Season 14/15
LaLiga 12 H FC Barcelona (2.) Sevilla FC Sevilla FC (5.) 5:1 RW 21' 1:0
LaLiga 22 A FC Barcelona (2.) Athletic Bilbao Athletic (11.) 2:5 RW 15' 0:1
Season 15/16
UEFA Super Cup Final H FC Barcelona Sevilla FC Sevilla FC 5:4 AET RW 7' 1:1
16' 2:1
LaLiga 15 H FC Barcelona (1.) Deportivo de La Coruña Dep. La Coruña (6.) 2:2 RW 39' 1:0
Copa del Rey last 16 H FC Barcelona RCD Espanyol Barcelona Espanyol 4:1 RW 44' 2:1
LaLiga 24 H FC Barcelona (1.) Celta de Vigo Celta de Vigo (7.) 6:1 RW 28' 1:0
LaLiga 26 H FC Barcelona (1.) Sevilla FC Sevilla FC (5.) 2:1 RW 31' 1:1
LaLiga 37 H FC Barcelona (1.) RCD Espanyol Barcelona Espanyol (14.) 5:0 RW 8' 1:0
Season 16/17
Copa del Rey last 16 A FC Barcelona Athletic Bilbao Athletic 2:1 RW 52' 2:1
LaLiga 17 A FC Barcelona (2.) Villarreal CF Villarreal (4.) 1:1 RW 90' 1:1
Copa del Rey last 16 H FC Barcelona Athletic Bilbao Athletic 3:1 RW 78' 3:1
LaLiga 21 H FC Barcelona (2.) Athletic Bilbao Athletic (7.) 3:0 RW 40' 2:0
Season 17/18
UEFA Champions League Group Stage H FC Barcelona Olympiacos Piraeus Olympiacos 3:1 CF 61' 2:0
LaLiga 19 A FC Barcelona (1.) Real Sociedad Real Sociedad (12.) 2:4 SS 85' 2:4
LaLiga 21 H FC Barcelona (1.) Deportivo Alavés Alavés (16.) 2:1 SS 84' 2:1
LaLiga 25 H FC Barcelona (1.) Girona FC Girona (8.) 6:1 SS 36' 3:1
LaLiga 26 A FC Barcelona (1.) UD Las Palmas UD Las Palmas (18.) 1:1 SS 21' 0:1
LaLiga 27 H FC Barcelona (1.) Atlético de Madrid Atlético Madrid (2.) 1:0 SS 26' 1:0
LaLiga 31 H FC Barcelona (1.) CD Leganés CD Leganés (14.) 3:1 SS 27' 1:0
Season 18/19
LaLiga 1 H FC Barcelona (1.) Deportivo Alavés Alavés (11.) 3:0 RW 64' 1:0
UEFA Champions League Group Stage H FC Barcelona PSV Eindhoven PSV Eindhoven 4:0 RW 31' 1:0
LaLiga 15 A FC Barcelona (1.) RCD Espanyol Barcelona Espanyol (7.) 0:4 RW 17' 0:1
65' 0:4
LaLiga 28 A FC Barcelona (1.) Real Betis Balompié Real Betis (8.) 1:4 SS 18' 0:1
LaLiga 29 H FC Barcelona (1.) RCD Espanyol Barcelona Espanyol (13.) 2:0 RW 71' 1:0
LaLiga 30 A FC Barcelona (1.) Villarreal CF Villarreal (17.) 4:4 RW 90' 4:3
UEFA Champions League Semi-Finals H FC Barcelona Liverpool FC Liverpool 3:0 RW 82' 3:0
Season 19/20
LaLiga 8 H FC Barcelona (4.) Sevilla FC Sevilla FC (5.) 4:0 RW 78' 4:0
LaLiga 11 H FC Barcelona (2.) Real Valladolid CF Real Valladolid (9.) 5:1 RW 34' 3:1
LaLiga 13 H FC Barcelona (1.) Celta de Vigo Celta de Vigo (18.) 4:1 RW 45'+1 2:1
48' 3:1
LaLiga 37 H FC Barcelona (2.) CA Osasuna CA Osasuna (11.) 1:2 RW 62' 1:1
Season 20/21
LaLiga 18 A FC Barcelona (3.) Granada CF Granada CF (7.) 0:4 CF 42' 0:3
LaLiga 21 H FC Barcelona (3.) Athletic Bilbao Athletic (11.) 2:1 CF 20' 1:0
LaLiga 34 A FC Barcelona (3.) Valencia CF Valencia (14.) 2:3 CF 69' 1:3
Season 22/23
Ligue 1 9 H Paris Saint-Germain (1.) OGC Nice OGC Nice (13.) 2:1 AM 28' 1:0
Ligue 1 24 H Paris Saint-Germain (1.) LOSC Lille LOSC Lille (5.) 4:3 CF 90'+5 4:3
Matches: 49; Goals: 52; Wins: 40; Draws: 6; Defeats: 3; Points average: 2.57 ; Game winning goals: 21
国家队,共10球(数目多不说,规格也是最高的,大赛五球,预赛三球,友谊赛两球):
2012世预赛对巴拉圭(3:1这场)
2012世预赛对巴拉圭(3:0这场)
2013世界杯对尼日利亚
2016美洲杯对巴拿马
2016美洲杯对美国
2016世预赛对哥伦比亚
2021美洲杯对智利
2021美洲杯对厄瓜多尔
2022友谊赛对牙买加
2023友谊赛对巴拿马
正式比赛累计62球,数目多,比赛级别高。
小贝(代表作对希腊拯救英格兰):
俱乐部37个,有8个大联盟进球(7联赛+1杯赛),其他是英超和西甲,没有梅开二度。
巅峰赛季98-99、03-04、2012(大联盟),都是4个。其次01-02,、02-03、04-05,都是3个。再次就是2个,不列了。
Comp. Matchday Venue For Opponent Result Pos. Minute At score
Season 96/97
FA Cup Third Round H Manchester United Tottenham Hotspur Tottenham 2:0 82' 2:0
Season 97/98
Premier League 17 A Manchester United (1.) Liverpool FC Liverpool (5.) 1:3 RM 70' 1:2
FA Cup Third Round A Manchester United Chelsea FC Chelsea 3:5 28' 0:2
Season 98/99
Premier League 1 H Manchester United (1.) Leicester City Leicester (10.) 2:2 90' 2:2
UEFA Champions League Group Stage H Manchester United FC Barcelona Barcelona 3:3 RM 63' 3:2
UEFA Champions League Group Stage H Manchester United Bröndby IF Bröndby IF 5:0 RM 6' 1:0
Premier League 30 H Manchester United (1.) Everton FC Everton (16.) 3:1 67' 3:0
Season 99/00
Premier League 29 A Manchester United (1.) Leicester City Leicester (9.) 0:2 RM 33' 0:1
Premier League 31 H Manchester United (1.) West Ham United West Ham (8.) 7:1 66' 6:1
Season 00/01
Premier League 3 A Manchester United (4.) West Ham United West Ham (20.) 2:2 6' 0:1
Premier League 12 A Manchester United (1.) Coventry City Coventry (16.) 1:2 37' 0:2
Season 01/02
Premier League 1 H Manchester United (3.) Fulham FC Fulham (13.) 3:2 35' 1:1
Premier League 2 A Manchester United (4.) Blackburn Rovers Blackburn (14.) 2:2 78' 2:2
UEFA Champions League Group Stage H Manchester United FC Nantes FC Nantes 5:1 RM 18' 1:1
Season 02/03
UEFA Champions League Qualifying 3rd round H Manchester United Zalaegerszegi TE FC Zalaegerszeg 5:0 RM 14' 2:0
UEFA Champions League Quarter-Finals H Manchester United Real Madrid Real Madrid 4:3 71' 3:3
Premier League 38 A Manchester United (1.) Everton FC Everton (6.) 1:2 43' 1:1
Season 03/04
LaLiga 4 A Real Madrid (2.) Málaga CF Málaga CF (19.) 1:3 CM 72' 0:2
UEFA Champions League Group Stage A Real Madrid Olympique Marseille Marseille 1:2 CM 36' 0:1
Copa del Rey Third Round A Real Madrid CD Leganés CD Leganés 3:4 AET CM 14' 0:1
Copa del Rey Final H Real Madrid Real Zaragoza Real Zaragoza 2:3 AET CM 24' 1:0
Season 04/05
LaLiga 2 H Real Madrid (6.) CD Numancia CD Numancia (13.) 1:0 CM 17' 1:0
LaLiga 4 H Real Madrid (8.) CA Osasuna CA Osasuna (5.) 1:0 CM 61' 1:0
LaLiga 21 A Real Madrid (2.) CD Numancia CD Numancia (20.) 1:2 RM 63' 0:1
Season 05/06
UEFA Champions League Group Stage H Real Madrid Rosenborg BK Rosenborg 4:1 RM 82' 4:1
LaLiga 20 H Real Madrid (4.) Cádiz CF Cádiz CF (15.) 3:1 RM 70' 2:1
Season 06/07
LaLiga 14 A Real Madrid (2.) Sevilla FC Sevilla FC (3.) 2:1 RM 13' 0:1
LaLiga 22 A Real Madrid (4.) Real Sociedad Real Sociedad (19.) 1:2 RM 37' 1:1
Season 07/08
North American SuperLiga Semi-Finals H Los Angeles Galaxy D.C. United D.C. United 2:0 27' 1:0
Major League Soccer 6 A Los Angeles Galaxy (8.) Real Salt Lake City Salt Lake (11.) 2:2 40' 2:2
Season 08/09
Serie A 21 H AC Milan (3.) Genoa CFC Genoa (4.) 1:1 CM 33' 1:0
Season 2010
Major League Soccer 28 A Los Angeles Galaxy (1.) CD Chivas USA Chivas USA (14.) 1:2 39' 0:2
Season 2011
Major League Soccer 9 H Los Angeles Galaxy (8.) Sporting Kansas City Kansas City (18.) 4:1 87' 4:1
Major League Soccer 10 A Los Angeles Galaxy (11.) Montreal Impact Montreal (16.) 1:1 CM 62' 1:1
Major League Soccer 16 A Los Angeles Galaxy (7.) San Jose Earthquakes San Jose (1.) 4:3 CM 31' 1:1
Major League Soccer 19 A Los Angeles Galaxy (8.) Portland Timbers Portland (17.) 3:5 CM 24' 1:2
Major League Soccer 27 H Los Angeles Galaxy (4.) Vancouver Whitecaps FC Vancouver (12.) 2:0 CM 79' 2:0
Matches: 37; Goals: 37; Wins: 27; Draws: 7; Defeats: 3; Points average: 2.38 ; Game winning goals: 10
德转没有国家队任意球统计口径,但是小贝的很容易查证,一共7个
1:1998年6月26日世界杯英格兰对阵哥伦比亚。
2:2001年5月25日英格兰与墨西哥的友谊赛。
3:2001年6月6日世界杯预选赛英格兰对阵希腊。
4:2001年10月6日世界杯预选赛英格兰对阵希腊。
5:2002年10月12号欧洲杯预选赛英格兰对阵斯洛伐克。
6:2003年3月29日欧洲杯预选赛英格兰对阵列支教士登。
7:2006年6月25日世界杯英格兰对阵厄瓜多尔。
正式比赛累计44个,同档次选手里小贝的分布最均匀,峰值不高但非常稳定。
小儒(神仙球真的厉害,印象分加分很多,代表作S球拐弯):
俱乐部共计43球,有两次梅开二度,7个发生在巴甲。
巅峰赛季05-06、08-09,7球。其次04-05,6球。再次06-07、07-08,5球。
Comp. Matchday Venue For Opponent Result Pos. Minute At score
Season 01/02
Ligue 1 11 H Olympique Lyon (3.) FC Sochaux-Montbéliard FC Sochaux (5.) 1:1 82' 1:1
Season 02/03
Ligue 1 2 H Olympique Lyon (7.) CS Sedan-Ardennes CS Sedan (14.) 6:1 AM 68' 4:1
Season 03/04
Ligue 1 8 H Olympique Lyon (7.) RC Lens Lens (6.) 4:0 AM 9' 1:0
Ligue 1 12 H Olympique Lyon (3.) OGC Nice OGC Nice (7.) 5:0 AM 73' 5:0
UEFA Champions League Group Stage A Olympique Lyon Bayern Munich Bayern Munich 1:2 CM 6' 0:1
Ligue 1 35 A Olympique Lyon (1.) FC Metz FC Metz (13.) 1:2 AM 23' 1:1
Season 04/05
Ligue 1 9 A Olympique Lyon (3.) AS Saint-Étienne Saint-Étienne (17.) 2:3 AM 35' 0:1
Ligue 1 17 A Olympique Lyon (1.) AC Ajaccio AC Ajaccio (19.) 1:1 AM 88' 0:1
Ligue 1 25 H Olympique Lyon (1.) FC Toulouse Toulouse (6.) 4:0 AM 2' 1:0
53' 3:0
UEFA Champions League last 16 A Olympique Lyon SV Werder Bremen Werder Bremen 0:3 CM 80' 0:3
Ligue 1 29 H Olympique Lyon (1.) FC Istres Ouest Provence FC Istres (20.) 2:1 AM 20' 1:0
Season 05/06
UEFA Champions League Group Stage H Olympique Lyon Real Madrid Real Madrid 3:0 CM 26' 2:0
UEFA Champions League Group Stage H Olympique Lyon Olympiacos Piraeus Olympiacos 2:1 CM 4' 1:0
UEFA Champions League Group Stage A Olympique Lyon Olympiacos Piraeus Olympiacos 1:4 CM 41' 1:1
Ligue 1 27 H Olympique Lyon (1.) FC Nantes FC Nantes (12.) 3:1 CM 9' 1:0
UEFA Champions League last 16 A Olympique Lyon PSV Eindhoven PSV Eindhoven 0:1 CM 65' 0:1
Ligue 1 29 A Olympique Lyon (1.) AC Ajaccio AC Ajaccio (19.) 1:3 AM 61' 0:1
Ligue 1 38 H Olympique Lyon (1.) Le Mans Union Club 72 Le Mans UC 72 (10.) 8:1 AM 43' 5:1
Season 06/07
Ligue 1 5 H Olympique Lyon (2.) ESTAC Troyes Troyes (15.) 2:0 AM 87' 2:0
UEFA Champions League Group Stage A Olympique Lyon Dynamo Kyiv Dynamo Kyiv 0:3 CM 31' 0:1
Ligue 1 10 A Olympique Lyon (1.) Olympique Marseille Marseille (2.) 1:4 AM 20' 0:1
Ligue 1 18 A Olympique Lyon (1.) RC Lens Lens (2.) 0:4 AM 23' 0:1
Coupe de France Third Round A Olympique Lyon Aviron Bayonnais Bayonne 1:2 AM 75' 1:2
Season 07/08
Ligue 1 8 A Olympique Lyon (2.) FC Metz FC Metz (20.) 1:5 CM 86' 1:5
UEFA Champions League Group Stage H Olympique Lyon FC Barcelona Barcelona 2:2 AM 7' 1:1
Ligue 1 16 H Olympique Lyon (1.) RC Strasbourg Alsace R. Strasbourg (10.) 5:0 CM 19' 2:0
Ligue 1 20 H Olympique Lyon (1.) FC Toulouse Toulouse (12.) 3:2 AM 56' 2:1
Coupe de France Semi-Finals H Olympique Lyon CS Sedan-Ardennes CS Sedan 1:0 88' 1:0
Season 08/09
Ligue 1 5 H Olympique Lyon (2.) OGC Nice OGC Nice (4.) 3:2 CM 40' 1:2
73' 2:2
UEFA Champions League Group Stage H Olympique Lyon Steaua Bucharest Steaua Bucharest 2:0 CM 44' 1:0
Ligue 1 22 H Olympique Lyon (1.) AS Saint-Étienne Saint-Étienne (17.) 1:1 CM 53' 1:1
Ligue 1 24 H Olympique Lyon (1.) AC Le Havre AC Le Havre (20.) 3:1 AM 74' 3:0
UEFA Champions League last 16 H Olympique Lyon FC Barcelona Barcelona 1:1 CM 7' 1:0
Ligue 1 36 A Olympique Lyon (3.) Olympique Marseille Marseille (1.) 1:3 90'+1 1:3
Season 2011
Campeonato Brasileiro Série A 8 A Clube de Regatas Vasco da Gama (9.) Sport Club Corinthians Paulista Corinthians (1.) 2:1 2' 0:1
Campeonato Brasileiro Série A 21 A Clube de Regatas Vasco da Gama (2.) América Futebol Clube (MG) América-MG (20.) 4:1 21' 1:1
Campeonato Brasileiro Série A 22 H Clube de Regatas Vasco da Gama (3.) Coritiba Foot Ball Club Coritiba FC (8.) 2:0 29' 1:0
Season 2012
Campeonato Brasileiro Série A 4 A Clube de Regatas Vasco da Gama (1.) Esporte Clube Bahia EC Bahia (15.) 1:2 RW 8' 0:1
Campeonato Brasileiro Série A 5 A Clube de Regatas Vasco da Gama (1.) Sociedade Esportiva Palmeiras Palmeiras (19.) 1:1 RW 83' 1:1
Campeonato Brasileiro Série A 15 A Clube de Regatas Vasco da Gama (2.) Sport Club do Recife Sport Recife (15.) 0:2 RW 68' 0:1
Season 2013
Campeonato Brasileiro Série A 9 H Clube de Regatas Vasco da Gama (12.) Criciúma Esporte Clube Criciúma EC (13.) 3:2 RM 9' 1:0
Matches: 41; Goals: 43; Wins: 33; Draws: 6; Defeats: 2; Points average: 2.56 ; Game winning goals: 10
国家队同样没有权威统计,但是一共只进过6球,一个个看就行了,非常简单:
Matchday Date Venue For Opponent Result Pos.
Confederations Cup 2005 Confederations Cup 2005
Group B 6/16/05 A Brazil Greece Greece 3:0 RW 1 13'
World Cup qualification South America World Cup qualification South America
Group A 10/9/05 A Brazil Bolivia Bolivia 1:1 RM 1 79'
International Friendlies International Friendlies
11/12/05 A Brazil United Arab Emirates U. A. E. 0:8 AM 2 2 27'
6/4/06 A Brazil New Zealand New Zealand 4:0 AM 1 26'
World Cup 2006 World Cup 2006
Group F 6/22/06 A Brazil Japan Japan 1:4 CM 1 90'
Squad: 5, Starting eleven: 2, Substituted in: 3, On the bench: 0, Suspended: 0, Injured: 0,
核对下来国家队有三个任意球,分别是:
2005联合会杯对希腊
2005友谊赛对阿联酋
2005世预赛对玻利维亚
其余三个是对阿联酋的另一个头球,对新西兰一个抽射,对日本一个远射。
正式比赛累计46个。国家队数目问题说了,进球数差不多的情况下小儒峰值够高,进球种类最丰富,射程最远最广。这几个人里可以竞争最强。
虎朴朴朴朴朴
· 北京对线用大力神杯就够了,要是对线结晶用这个图也给他们秒了!
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