【洛城里】大将军:巅峰甜瓜是比KD更全面的得分手,球迷:科比更全面
零号特工阿里纳斯近日在播客节目《GilsArenaShow》中谈到了KD和甜瓜。阿里纳斯表示如果二人都在巅峰期,安东尼是比杜兰特更加全面的得分手。
他说道:“甜瓜的得分等级更高,联盟中有会挡拆和会单打的球员。而甜瓜既能做挡拆又能拉开单干。如果你问他们谁是最全面的得分手,我会选甜瓜”。引来热议,一起来看看球迷如何评论!
1. KD has a higher career average and has been more consistent (25ppg every year other than rookie)
2. “More skilled scorer” is a made-up debate to talk up players who don’t win. Point of the game is to win.
Gil was a great scorer himself, but not a winner. He’s the champion…
1.KD 职业生涯场均得分更高,也更稳定(除新秀赛季外,每年场均 25 分)
2."更全面的得分手 "是一个编造出来的辩论,用来谈论那些不会赢球的球员,比赛的意义在于获胜。
KD is a more efficient mid range shooter, more efficient 3pt shooter, more efficient post player, more efficient isolation scorer as well.........He's better at every aspect of scoring 😭. What are we doing bruh
KD 是更有效率的中距离射手、更有效率的三分球射手、更有效率的内线得分球员、更有效率的单打得分手.........,他在得分的各个方面都更出色,我们在干嘛?
He's talking about overall offense skillset, not efficiency or heat map stats. KD is a much better player overall in a team setting, but Melo has a more diverse offensive game (much better in low and high post, strength and counter moves).
他说的是整体进攻技巧,而不是效率或进攻投篮热图统计,在团队配合中,KD 的整体实力更胜一筹,但甜瓜的进攻手段更加多样化(在低位和高位、力量和反击方面都更胜一筹)。
You are confusing efficiency with ability. The only point being made is melo has more ability than KD.
你把效率和能力混为一谈了,你唯一想说的是,甜瓜比 KD 更有得分技巧。
Stop it. When has KD NOT been surrounded by stars to make his game so efficient? Who was Melo surrounded by as the number one go-to guy? JR Smith? Chauncey Billups? Late career Iverson? People always forget the guys that don't win championships.
别说了,KD什么时候不是被球星们包围着才能如此高效地比赛?作为头号得分手,甜瓜身边有谁呢?JR 史密斯?比卢普斯?职业生涯晚期的艾弗森?人们总是忘记那些没有赢得总冠军的球员。
Carmelo Anthony was a combination of both the old school scoring Forwards and the new school. He was like Adrian Dantley, Bernard King and Alex English all rolled into 1 with 3-point range.
卡梅隆-安东尼是老派得分前锋和新派得分前锋的结合体。他就像阿德里安-丹特利、伯纳德-金和阿历克斯-英格利什三人合一,还拥有三分射程。
I watched Melo from his Denver days(into peak form) through the NY Knicks(peak duration), and I think this is accurate. Melo on form had the footwork and quickness to explode. KD, is a great scorer, and very lethal due to his high efficiency and height. I doubt he has the…
我看了甜瓜从丹佛时期(进入巅峰状态)到纽约尼克斯队(巅峰期)的比赛,我认为这是准确的,状态正佳的甜瓜拥有爆发的脚步和速度。KD是一名出色的得分手,他的高效率和身高使他极具杀伤力,我怀疑他是否有(甜瓜的技能)...
The people that have a problem with this are either in their feelings or they really just don’t understand what he’s saying. Melo is a more complete scorer his bag is bigger. There’s no where you can put him that hes lacking in skill set. KD scores on 4 levels Melo scores on 5…
对此有意见的人要么是感情用事,要么就是真的不明白他在说什么,甜瓜是一个更全面的得分手,他的投篮技能包更多,没有什么地方是他所欠缺的,杜兰特在4个层面上得分,甜瓜在5个层面上得分......
more skilled yes, kd has pure height to make up for the need to create space
技术全面是的,KD拥有纯粹的身高来弥补创造空间的需要。
I think KD is more skilled, but Melo is more complete. Melo could play bully ball, KD can’t. But KD hits those “holy crap no one on the planet could have stopped that” shots.
我认为KD的技术更出色,但甜瓜更全面,甜瓜可以打霸王球,而KD不行。但KD却能投中那些"我靠,地球人都挡不住"的球。
Looking at the comments, many people have a very flawed memory of Melo. Incredibly underrated. Durant is clearly a all-time dynamic scorer, but I think Arenas is correct here. In his prime, Melo was one of the most complete scorers in NBA history.
从评论来看,很多人对甜瓜的记忆都有很大的缺陷,他被低估了。
杜兰特显然是历史上最有活力的得分手,但我认为阿里纳斯的观点是正确的。巅峰时期的甜瓜是NBA历史上最全面的得分手之一。
As soon as I see Gilbert’s name I stop reading.
一看到吉尔伯特的名字,我就不看了。
kobe more complete than both of them & that’s why he’s the GOAT
科比比他们都更全面,所以他才是最伟大的球员。
More skilled scorer that averaged 5 points less per game
更全面的得分手,场均得分少得5分。
Melo all day. Make Melo the same height as KD... Melo would still be better. Make KD the same height as Melo he would not. KD is a much better on ball defender and defender in general though. Complete Player, KD Wins. Scorer, Melo
永远是甜瓜胜出,如果甜瓜和KD一样高...甜瓜仍然会更好,让KD和甜瓜一样高,他就不会。不过,KD的控球和防守能力要强得多。
更全面的球员:KD胜。
更全面的得分手:甜瓜
The things Durant does well put him among the greatest of all time in terms of volume and efficiency. Melo scored in more ways, but was WAY WAY WAY less efficient at the same things Durant does well. Durant is a massively more potent & impactful offensive weapon.
杜兰特的出色表现让他在数据和效率方面跻身史上最伟大的球员之列,甜瓜的得分方式更多,但在杜兰特擅长的方面,他的效率却远远不如杜兰特。杜兰特是更强大、更有影响力的进攻武器。
I still don't understand why Melos game fell off so hard to the point where he can't even be an end of bench player whereas KD and LeBron are still elite of the elite. What made Melos game degrade so badly in comparison?
我还是不明白,为什么甜瓜的竞技状态下滑得如此厉害,以至于他连板凳末端球员都当不上,而科比和勒布朗却依然是精英中的精英。相比之下,是什么让甜瓜的竞技状态下滑得如此厉害?
I kinda agree tbh. Melo was a more physical player and he could slow the game to his tempo. Because of his physicality, he finished inside very well. KD was far and away the more efficient scorer, and more unblockable, but Melo got to his spots better. Both loved to shoot jumpers
我有点同意这个观点,甜瓜的身体素质更好,他可以按照自己的节奏放慢比赛节奏。因为他的身体素质,他的内线终结能力很强。KD 是远近闻名的高效得分手,而且更难被封盖,但甜瓜能更好地找到自己的位置,两人都喜欢跳投。
lmk when Melo averages 30 on 55-40-90 splits
请问甜瓜能在55-40-90命中率的情况下场均30分吗?
Kevin Durant can do everything he mentioned about Melo but at a way higher efficiency, Melo was an all time great but they were on diff levels, KD avg 50% from the field 11 seasons and Melo 0 and both created the bulk of their scoring on jumpshots. KD - 62% TS% MELO - 54% TS%
凯文-杜兰特能做到他提到的甜瓜的所有事情,但效率却更高,甜瓜是历史上最伟大的球员,但他们的水平不同,凯文-杜兰特有11个赛季的场均命中率为50%,而甜瓜为0个赛季,两人的大部分得分都来自跳投。
KD-62%的真实命中率
甜瓜-54%的真实命中率
Kevin Durant is by far the better player and better scorer overall but Melo had a bigger arsenal of moves even if he wasnt as efficient. I get what Arenas is saying and Melo is more complete because there’s nothing he couldn’t do but he didn’t do anything better than KD
凯文-杜兰特是迄今为止更好的球员,也是更好的得分手,但甜瓜有更多的手段去得分,即使他没有那么高效。我明白阿里纳斯的意思,甜瓜更全面,因为他没有做不到的事情,但他没有比凯文-杜兰特做得更好的地方。
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