【西海岸】阿里纳斯:绿军过去三十年只有一冠,他们在历史上无关紧要

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北京时间3月22日,此前,皮尔斯在个人的播客节目中表示:“我向大家保证,凯尔特人会比湖人更早赢得第18个总冠军。几年前湖人赢得了园区冠军才追上我们,那个‘米老鼠’冠军也算数?我们会拿一个真正的冠军。”

这一言论引起了轩然大波,而作为回应,阿里纳斯也在其个人的播客中对皮尔斯的言论进行了反击,阿里纳斯表示:“湖人球迷刚刚赶上了一支球队,这支球队的成就建立在由8支球队决出的总冠军之上。说实话,他们95%的总冠军都是在皮尔斯出生之前创造的。这是第一。第二,我不知道是否还有活着的人记得他们在50年代那会赢得冠军时候的情况。那些跟AAU(业余运动联合会,主要组织青少年篮球赛事)一样的冠军还不如米老鼠冠军。他们赢的那些都是AAU冠军,只有8支球队参与竞争。在过去30年里,凯尔特人在篮球历史上无关紧要,他们的队史建立在篮球运动的初期,因为你们拥有所有的好球员,因为你们的名气很大。在过去30年的篮球历史中,凯尔特人去哪儿了?过去30年里就赢了一次冠军。”

“你在那里到处大放厥词,唯一记得你的人就是现在的凯尔特人球迷,大部分看过凯尔特人最初王朝的人都不在人世了。在过去30年里,冠军数量是湖人排第一,马刺排第二,勇士排第三,你们和猛龙相等。在过去30年里,你们都只夺了一冠。”

这一言论也引起了媒体和球迷们的热烈讨论,球迷们纷纷表示:皮尔斯说湖人,为什么阿里纳斯这么激动?


[1]“他说得对,大多数凯尔特人球迷一生中只见过一次总冠军。”

He’s spot on most Boston fans only seen 1 championship in their lifetime

[-]”但一次总冠军也比联盟的大多数球队都强。“

1 is more then most of the league though.

[--]”是的,但是人们总是说湖人和凯尔特人是最成功的球队之一,虽然从理论上来说,确实是,但他们在38年里只拿到了一个总冠军。而湖人在这段时间内有8个总冠军....“

Yeah but people always talk about the lakers and Celtics being one of the more successful franchises and while yeah it’s technicallytrue they have 1 championship in 38 years. The lakers have 8 in that span….


[4]”这就是为什么阿里纳斯远不如皮尔斯,事实上阿里纳斯是众所周知的loser。“

that’s why gilbert arenas was not even close to as good as paul pierce in fact gil was known loser

[-]”在雷-阿伦和凯文·加内特到来之前,保罗-皮尔斯要么完全无足轻重,要么早晚被交易到另一支球队。“

Paul Pierce was on his way to being either completely irrelevant or being traded to another team untill Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett arrived

[--]”2006年他的球队是联盟中最差的,他在2002年拥有安东尼-沃克的时候打进了东决,阿里纳斯从来没有做到过这样的事。“

he was on the worst constructed roster in the league in 2006 he went to the ECF when he had antoine walker in 2002 gilbert never even did no shit like that


[7]”他终于说出了真相,凯尔特人已经被尘封多年了。“

he finally telling the truth , celtics been dust for years

[-]”即使这是真的,湖人和凯尔特人的恩怨又和他有什么关系?“

Even if that's true, what does the L.A. / Boston feud have to do with him?

[--]“这很疯狂,因为他没有说哪怕一个谎言😂😂

但我绝对认为杰森-塔图姆会改变这一切。”

It’s crazy because he didn’t say not one lie 😂😂

But I definitely think Jayson Tatum will change that when it’s all said and done


[10]”凯尔特人在过去的15年里有8次打进分区决赛或总决赛,只有1次没有打进季后赛。如果他们无关紧要,那么90%的联盟球队也是如此🤦🏽‍♂️。“

The Celtics have 8 conference finals or finals appearances in the last 15 years and only missed the playoffs 1 time. If they’re irrelevant so is 90% of the league 🤦🏽‍♂️

[-]”是的,这种“不夺冠就失败”的心态太愚蠢了。就像之前的活塞、步行者和雄鹿,他们都很有竞争力,打进了季后赛,但有些人却在喊“失败”……就像你说的,每年有多少球队无缘季后赛?“

Yeah this "championship or nothing" mentality is silly. Like here with Pistons/Pacers/Bucks, they have all been competitive and make the playoffs, yet some cry "failure"... as you said, how many teams miss the playoffs every year?

[--]”当你花了数百万美元来打造阵容,并且相信你有足够的时间去克服这个困难,但却没有克服这个困难时,打进季后赛是不够的,尤其是作为一号种子。“

When u spend millions of dollars on a roster consistently and believe u have enough to get over but aren’t gettin over that hump makin the playoffs isn’t enough ur kinda posta do tht especially as a one seed.


[13]”你们中的一些球迷所喜欢的球队甚至连第一轮都进不了,笑死我了。“

Some of yall fans of a team that can’t even make it out the first round lmao.

[-]”不管你是哪支球队的球迷,他说的都是对的🤷‍♂️。“

Doesn’t matter what team you’re a fan of it still makes what he said accurate 🤷‍♂️

[--]”不,你还是要把他们和联盟中其他没有取得同样成功或类似成功的球队进行比较。在过去的20年里,凯尔特人3次打进总决赛,一次🏆和许多次打进东部决赛,这比联盟90%的球队都要好。“

Nah, you still have to compare them to the other teams in the league who haven’t had nearly the same success or similar success. 3 finals appearances, a 🏆 and many conference finals appearances in the last 20 years is better than 90% of the league


[16]”34年一冠,我笑死了兄弟😂。“

1 ring in 34 years I’m crine bro😂

[-]”从历史上看,湖人都是通过引进超级巨星来赢得总冠军的,除了詹姆斯-沃西、魔术师、科比,此外没有哪些被他们选中的球员帮助他们赢得总冠军。

凯尔特人赢得总冠军主要依靠选秀。“

Historically the Lakers have brought superstars to win championships, other than James Worthy, Magic, Kobe there hasn’t been drafted players giving them championships.

The Celtics have won championships mainly with drafted players.


[18]”没错,凯尔特人大多数的总冠军都是在史前的NBA。他们在现代NBA中只有一个总冠军,别比了。“

Facts tho most of those Boston championships was in the pre historic NBA. Boston has 1 championship in the modern NBA stop it

[-]”拉里-伯德的总冠军呢?如果你只计算90年代及以后,那么只有11支球队赢得了总冠军。活塞,公牛,马刺,猛龙,骑士,小牛,勇士,掘金,雄鹿,热火,湖人。凯尔特人比联盟中其他19支球队多赢了1个总冠军。“

Larry bird? And if you only counting 90s and up then there’s only 11 teams that won chip. Pistons, bulls, spurs, raptors, Cavs, mavs, warriors, nuggets , bucks, heat, lakers. Celtics won 1 chip more than 19 other teams in the league

[--]”不好意思,80年代的总冠军是很重要。然而,这些都是40年前的事了,他们的上一个总冠军也是近20年前的事了。我们必须现实一点。“

excuse me those championships in the 80s are very much relevant. However those were 40 years ago and the last championship is damn near 20 years ago. We have to be real here

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贾巴尔球迷

· 江苏
框呢那还有一冠都没有的呢?不玩了吗??收起

多数老板也不想着争冠,赚钱,应该说多数球员也都没想争冠,都是为了赚钱而已

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MatsuokaMaaya

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我觉得湖凯恩怨不关阿里纳斯的事这种反驳弱爆了,这基本就等于说我知道你说的对但我不想轻易承认

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