【风城之声】公牛用12号签和55号签选中了埃森格和奥尔布里希,国外的JR怎么看?

avatar
关注

在今年的2025年选秀大会中,公牛用12号签和55号签选中了埃森格和奥尔布里希,来看看国外牛蜜们的反应吧(全部回复来自于:reddⅰt&X)


coopcoop0I was so scared we were gonna draft another guard

(我当时特别担心我们会再选一名后卫)

VCarry-NLThis guy is 6’10 barefoot btw

(顺便说一下,这家伙光脚身高有6英尺10英寸)

1920 BEARS

Unimpressed$$$4uHate being a bulls fan.. Who tf is this.. What part of NEED a Center do they not get.. 7 guards and forwards on an 11 man roster -and 8 man rotation

(讨厌做公牛队的球迷……这到底是谁啊……他们到底哪点不明白我们需要一个中锋啊……11人的大名单里有7个后卫和前锋——轮换阵容里更是8个人里有7个这种位置的)

cgk205"We have Giannis Antetokuonmpo at home"

(“我们家里有扬尼斯·阿德托昆博呢”)

E.morenoThey could of went with Asa Newell, Thomas Sorber or even Derick Queen but no, the front office got scared, they didn’t think Noa would slide to them and they made the wrong choice. They needed a strong center not a skinny PF at 18 ready to be a failing project just like Pwill.

(我们本可以选择阿萨·纽厄尔、托马斯·索伯,甚至德里克·奎因,但没有。管理层害怕了,他们觉得诺阿不会落到自己手里,结果做了错误的选择,他们需要的是一个强壮的中锋,而不是在第18顺位选一个瘦骨嶙峋的大前锋——这注定会成为像PW那样失败的培养项目)

dpucane

still growing.

You're betting on him hitting another level physically. I'm good with this.

(还在成长中

你是在赌他身体条件能再上一个台阶,我觉得这没问题)

_JayCee24

The bulls have a great track record of developing young forwards

(公牛队在培养年轻前锋方面有着出色的历史成绩)

Engelberth B Villanueva🇻🇪

Pick of pure future potential, if he is good the best comparable version would be a style like Paskal Siakam's

(选中的是纯粹具有未来潜力的球员,如果他表现出色,最接近的模板风格会像帕斯卡尔·西亚卡姆)

thesch

The Bulls took kinda the same mindset as when the Bucks took Giannis. Not saying he'll be that good obviously, but in the sense that they rolled the dice on someone raw and probably sucks right now but could have some of the biggest upside in the draft.

If you wanted the Bulls to take a boom-or-bust home run swing this is what they're doing. If you wanted them to get a safe high floor player they didn't do that.

(公牛队这次的选人思路,和雄鹿当年选扬尼斯时有点类似。当然不是说他能达到那种高度,但意思是他们押注了一个技术粗糙、现在可能表现糟糕,但在选秀中潜力上限极高的球员。

如果你希望公牛选一个“要么大爆要么大雷”的高风险高回报球员,他们现在就是在这么做;但如果你希望他们选一个下限稳定、风险低的球员,那他们这次没这么做。)

tokemonkmk420

Strengths: Essengue is a rangy, versatile power forward who filled up the box score on both ends of the floor playing at a very high level of competition in the EuroCup and German BBL. Despite being the second-youngest player in this draft, he can get to the free throw line and his passing and defensive playmaking give him considerable upside to grow into.

Weaknesses: His narrow frame might make it difficult to operate inside the paint in the NBA. And his inconsistency from the perimeter might prevent his opportunistic scoring from translating to the league.

The verdict: Essengue scored steadily around the rim for Ulm, made plays off the ball, attacked the rim with long strides and drew fouls at an exceptional rate despite his youth and lack of strength. He has shown real promise with his feel for the game and ability to cover ground defensively. He still has some areas to improve to solidify his role in the NBA. However, he was the best player on the floor in quite a few games this season, which is rare for someone his age. -- Jonathan Givony

Post-Draft Analysis Chicago was tipped by rival teams as a candidate to try and move up in the draft. Ultimately, they stayed at No. 12 and went with Essengue, who will be a long-term developmental investment for the Bulls. Chicago has needed younger frontcourt help for some time, and Essengue could give them an element of versatility and size at forward that the roster presently lacks, allowing them to potentially play a faster style that falls in concert with some of the other pieces on the roster. It may take him some time to adjust to the NBA, but coming off a solid season in Germany, Essengue played his way into the lottery and could be a valuable addition, particularly if his perimeter shooting can improve. -- Jeremy Woo

(优势:

埃森格是一名身材修长、技术全面的大前锋,他在欧洲杯和德国篮球乙级联赛(BBL)的高水平比赛中,攻防两端的数据表现都十分亮眼。尽管他是本届选秀中第二年轻的球员,但他能够造犯规站上罚球线,且传球和防守策应能力为其未来成长提供了可观的潜力空间。

劣势:

他较为单薄的体型可能导致在NBA的禁区内难以高效终结,同时外线投射的稳定性不足,可能会影响其机会主义得分在联盟中的转化效果。

评价:

埃森格在乌尔姆队打球时,禁区附近得分稳定,无球进攻积极,凭借长步幅冲击篮筐,尽管年轻且力量不足,但造犯规率极高。他在比赛阅读和防守覆盖范围上展现出真正的潜力。不过,他仍有一些领域需要提升,以巩固在NBA的角色。然而,本赛季他在不少比赛中都是球场上表现最出色的球员,这对他这个年龄的球员来说实属难得。——乔纳森·吉沃尼

选秀后分析:

公牛队此前被其他球队视为可能尝试在选秀中向上交易的候选者,但最终他们留在了第12顺位选中埃森格,这将是公牛对其进行长期培养的投资。芝加哥公牛长期以来都需要更年轻的前场支援,而埃森格能为球队提供目前阵容中缺乏的前锋位置的多功能性和体型优势,使他们有可能打出与阵容中其他球员更契合的快节奏风格。他可能需要一些时间适应NBA,但在德国度过一个稳定的赛季后,埃森格凭借自身表现进入了乐透区,可能成为有价值的新援,尤其是如果他的外线投篮能有所提升的话。——杰里米·吴)

Fine-Hat-4573Buzelis and Essengue is gonna be a fun duo.

(布泽利斯和埃森格会成为一对很有趣的组合)

T FergThe Windy City Bulls can't wait to have him in the line-up.

(风城公牛队已经等不及让他进入阵容了)

Dielit waveWelcome to Hell buddy, be ready for the annual 9seed vs 10seed play in game against the Miami heat

(兄弟,欢迎来到地狱,准备好迎接每年和迈阿密热火打9号种子对10号种子的附加赛吧)

George TitoBulls are now the skinniest team in the league! Portillos and Lou’s diet for this man stat!

(公牛队现在成了联盟里体型最单薄的球队!得让他们吃Portillos(芝加哥知名快餐品牌,以汉堡、热狗等高热量食物闻名)和Lou’s(芝加哥深盘披萨店Lou Malnati’s)的套餐来增肌啊!)

Emotional-Tailor-649

A French guy named Noah! Ok, it worked out once before.

(一个叫诺阿的法国人!好吧,这招以前成功过一次)

Rakatok

Not going to pretend I have watched any euro games to say how he is, but the pre-draft consensus seems to be a pretty divided. Extremely young project with upside at both ends.

The fact we fired the development coach our players liked because our GM is a bitch doesn't inspire confidence on us developing his shot, but I don't know who was the for sure better pick left.

(我不会假装自己看过任何欧洲比赛来评价他的表现,但选秀前的共识似乎分歧很大。他是个极其年轻的潜力股,攻防两端都有上升空间。

事实上,我们解雇了球员们喜欢的发展教练,因为总经理太刻薄了,这让我对球队能否培养他的投篮没什么信心,但我也不知道剩下的人选里谁肯定更好)

Charming_Koala5642

Not sure what all the whiners in here were expecting with pick 12?? Were you expecting a generational talent to take us to the top 4 seed? Wake up.

Dude looks like he has some talent and some physical gifts too. And if we can flog Williams off somewhere he’ll get a good chance to show what he can do.

(不确定这里的抱怨者对12号签有什么期待?难道还指望选到一个划时代的天才,直接带我们冲到西部前四吗?醒醒吧

这伙计看起来既有天赋,身体条件也不错。而且如果我们能把威廉姆斯交易到其他地方,他也能有机会好好展现自己的能力)

Harry Wilkie 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

super high upside pick. his stats in EuroCup don’t lie. BBL Germany is a good league too. Him and Matas as a frontcourt will be great

(这是个上限极高的选择,他在欧洲杯的数据不会说谎,德国BBL联赛也是不错的联赛。他和马塔斯组成前场搭档会很棒)

HD_H2O

I have a great feeling on this pick. Load this kid up with training and protein. Let's go.

(我对这个选秀选择很有信心,让这孩子多训练、多补充蛋白质,冲就完事了!)

Practical-Courage812

As someone who knew nothing of most of these prospects, this kid sounds like he has high potential and that's all you really want at pick 12. Sounds like many experts had him as one of the 5 highest ceiling players in this draft so ill take it.

(作为一个对大部分选秀前景一无所知的人,这孩子听起来潜力很高,而这正是你在第12顺位真正想要的。听说很多专家都把他列为这次选秀中上限最高的5名球员之一,所以我接受这个选择)

nalagang91Holy shit this guy was the top of my board, can’t believe he fell to us. He’s raw, but so young and that size, length, and aggression you can’t reach. Kinda wild to see Demin and CMB go so high, I actually thought both would fall below us.

(天呐,这哥们之前就在我最想选的名单 TOP1位,不敢相信他居然落到我们手里了,他技术是糙了点,但这么年轻,而且那体型、臂展和拼劲都是天生的优势,看到德明和CMB被选那么高还挺意外的,我本来以为他俩都会掉到我们后面呢。)

Plg_RexDon’t know much about the kid other than he needs to be introduced to Italian beef sandwiches asap to help thicken up.

PTSD from previous ‘young unknown with potential’ picks has me a bit numb, so I’ll just hope for the best and that he works out

(除了知道这孩子得赶紧尝尝意大利牛肉三明治来增肌外,我对他了解不多。

之前选“年轻潜力股却不知名”的经历给我整出了创伤后应激障碍,现在有点麻木了,所以我就只求最好,希望他能打出来吧)

Dannyzavage

We were so close to Malauch. Well Essengue really pops on the defensive end. With a 7-foot wingspan and the agility to switch on the perimeter or fly in as a weak-side rim helper, he brings real versatility and energy. He guards multiple positions, plays above the rim, and has the tools to become a disruptive force in the NBA if his strength and motor continue to improve. He brings size, length, and defensive versatility at a position of need. The offense may take time, and the jumper needs to become more reliable, but the foundation is intriguing. If the Bulls are willing to be patient with his development, they could come away with one of the most athletic and versatile forwards in the class.

(我们差点就选到马路了,不过埃森格在防守端确实很突出,他拥有7英尺的臂展,既能灵活换防外线,也能从弱侧协防护筐,带来了真正的防守多样性和活力。他能防守多个位置,具备篮上终结能力,并且如果力量和积极性继续提升,他有潜力成为NBA中具有破坏力的球员。他在球队需求的位置上提供了体型、臂展和防守多样性。进攻可能需要时间打磨,跳投也需要更稳定,但基础条件很吸引人。如果公牛愿意耐心培养他,他们可能会得到本届选秀中运动能力和多功能性最强的前锋之一)

Ho-Chi-Mane

Honestly, we got one of the few guys in the draft that I have been somewhat excited about. Hopefully this kid develops. Huge upside potential

(说实话,我们选到了本届选秀中少数几个让我有点期待的球员,希望这孩子能打出来,他的潜力上限太高了)


Nick RobertWelcome to the Windy City Bulls! 🫡

(欢迎来到风城公牛队!🫡

BuickSkylark55

He looks to have good size, motor, rebounding. Pretty good post moves and not bad athleticism. Seems to lack any kind of shooting and defense is tough to tell cause of the competition he was playing against. I like the pick

(他看起来体型不错,积极性高,篮板能力强。低位脚步相当不错,运动能力也不差。不过似乎缺乏投射能力,而防守由于他之前面对的竞争水平原因,还很难判断,我喜欢这个选秀选择)

Colin AKA GhostPanda

Glorious mustache king!

(威风凛凛的胡子之王!)

sukari

Picked during ad break?? Welcome to Chicago, Bogan Jokic!!

(在广告时段选的人??欢迎来到芝加哥,博根·约基奇!!)

Versace Eggs

The next marko simonovic 🔜

(下一个马尔科-西蒙诺维奇🔜)

FadedToBeige

idk anything about this guy but he has a good name and he's kinda funny looking. I give this pick an A+

(我对这哥们一无所知,但他名字挺好听,长得还有点搞笑,这选秀我给A+!)

O Inconformante

White guy with a mustache. Maybe he'll become the new Larry Bird. 🙃

(一个留着小胡子的白人小伙,说不定他会成为下一个拉里·伯德呢🙃)

发布于广东阅读 5023

这些回复亮了

discusser-avatar

公牛前锋桐崎千棘楼主

· 广东

上面森哥下面小胡子

亮了(14)
查看回复(1)
回复
discusser-avatar

榴莲带壳吃

· 上海

这里的翻译就很好地解释了何为糙哥,何为毛坯。糙哥就是指技能点都有,但现阶段都比较糙,不够精进(低等级技能)需要好好打磨才行。毛坯是指除了身体以外,其他技能几乎没有,都要重新学起的类型。艾森格确实和当年的字母很像,字母也是有持球能力,在希腊次级联赛效力,身体单薄,投篮不稳定,没什么低位技术。小布和他们的区别就在于小布的身体素质比他们略差一点,但初始技能比他们熟练

亮了(12)
查看回复(1)
回复