TA:马杜埃凯可能转会阿森纳引发争议,哪支球队将获益更多?
By Art de Roché and Liam Twomey July 10, 2025 8:00 pm
Noni Madueke's possible move to Arsenal from Chelsea has already divided one fanbase.
诺尼·马杜埃凯可能从切尔西转会至阿森纳,此事已经分裂了阿森纳球迷。
On Wednesday, purported Arsenal fans got the hashtag #NoToMadueke trending on social media. A petition was then launched on Thursday against his arrival at the Emirates Stadium. As The Athletic reported on Wednesday, the two clubs are now in talks, with Arsenal and the winger agreeing personal terms.
周三,据称是阿森纳的球迷在社交媒体上让#拒绝马杜埃凯(#NoToMadueke)成为热门话题。周四,一份反对他加盟酋长球场的请愿书也随之发起。正如《The Athletic》周三报道的那样,两家俱乐部目前正在谈判,且阿森纳已与这位边锋就个人条款达成一致。
Social media often lacks the nuance of reality, and there will be positives and negatives to Madueke's move from the perspective of both clubs. So The Athletic asked our Arsenal expert Art de Roche and our Chelsea expert Liam Twomey to have a conversation about his mooted move.
社交媒体常常缺乏现实中的微妙之处,从两家俱乐部的角度来看,马杜埃凯的转会都有积极和消极的一面。因此,《The Athletic》邀请我们的阿森纳专家阿特·德罗什和切尔西专家利亚姆·图米就这次备受议论的转会进行了一次对话。
Below, they discuss whether or not the move makes sense for each side, why the response online has been so vociferous, and which team the transfer will work better for.
以下,他们讨论了这笔转会对双方各自是否有意义、为何网络反响如此激烈,以及这次转会更有利于哪支球队。
Liam Twomey: From a squad-balance perspective, yes. Pedro Neto has firmly established himself at the top of Enzo Maresca's wing pecking order with his Club World Cup performances, and the Portugal international prefers to operate from the right flank. Cole Palmer has been deployed on that side for stretches of games in the United States in tweaked versions of Chelsea's system.
利亚姆·图米:从阵容平衡的角度看,是的。佩德罗·内托凭借其世俱杯的表现,已经牢牢确立了在恩佐·马雷斯卡边锋顺位中的首位,而这位葡萄牙国脚更喜欢在右路活动。在美国进行的一系列比赛中,科尔·帕尔默也在切尔西体系调整后的版本中被部署在右路。
That is before we even consider that Palmeiras prodigy Estevao arrives at Cobham this summer, and is likely to split his game time between attacking midfield and right wing. Tyrique George can operate on either flank, and Joao Pedro was recruited in part for his ability to play in any of Maresca's attacking positions.
这还不算我们即将在今夏迎来的帕尔梅拉斯新星埃斯特旺,他可能会在攻击型中场和右边锋之间分配出场时间。泰里克·乔治可以胜任左右两翼,而若昂·佩德罗被引进的部分原因也是他能够胜任马雷斯卡进攻体系中的任何位置。
Kendry Paez is with (though not part of) the Club World Cup squad. Fast-forward 12 months, and Chelsea will also welcome Geovany Quenda, another dynamic young left-footed winger, from Sporting CP. Maresca has plenty of alternatives to Madueke on the right, and the signing of Jamie Gittens from Borussia Dortmund lessens the need for him on the left.
肯德里·派斯目前正随(虽未进入正式名单)世俱杯阵容训练。快进12个月,切尔西还将迎来另一位充满活力的年轻左脚边锋热奥瓦尼·昆达,他从葡萄牙体育加盟。马雷斯卡在右路有足够多的马杜埃凯替代者,而从多特蒙德签下杰米·吉滕斯也降低了对他在左路的需求。
Madueke is also emerging as one of Chelsea's best opportunities to raise significant sale funds in this transfer window, and the importance of selling as well as buying was underlined by the terms of the negotiated settlement entered into with UEFA this month after being found in breach of the governing body's financial rules.
同时,马杜埃凯正成为切尔西在这个转会窗口筹集可观出售资金的最佳机会之一。本月,俱乐部因违反欧足联财务规则而与之达成的和解协议条款,也突显了出售球员与引援同等重要。
Art de Roche: Madueke would provide Arsenal with much-needed depth in wide areas.
阿特·德罗什:马杜埃凯将为阿森纳在边路区域提供急需的深度。
Mikel Arteta's reliance on Bukayo Saka on the right wing was highlighted as far back as the 2020-21 season, so having an option who could allow him to be rested would be welcome.
早在2020-21赛季,米克尔·阿尔特塔对布卡约·萨卡在右翼的依赖就备受关注,因此能有一个让他得到休息的轮换选项将是受欢迎的。
Madueke's ability to play on the left could also help Arsenal, but that may come down to whether Arteta is comfortable playing a left-footer on that side. He did use Gabriel Martinelli, a right-footer, on the right at times last season, but that was only when Saka and Ethan Nwaneri were injured.
马杜埃凯能踢左路的能力也可能对阿森纳有所帮助,但这可能取决于阿尔特塔是否愿意让一名左脚球员踢那个位置。他上赛季确实偶尔让右脚球员加布里埃尔·马丁内利踢过右路,但那只是在萨卡和伊桑·恩瓦内里受伤的情况下。
De Roche: There will be a few factors behind this. One of the most important is likely the timing in comparison to other deals.
德罗什:这背后有几个因素。最重要的因素之一可能是与其他潜在交易相比的时机问题。
Madueke could become Arsenal's first attacking signing of the summer, which fans would not have envisaged at the start of the window. Had this come about after the arrival of a striker and another winger/attacking midfielder, there would naturally be a different mood among the fanbase.
马杜埃凯可能成为阿森纳今夏的首笔进攻端引援,这是球迷在转会窗开启之初未曾预料到的。如果这笔签约发生在一名前锋和另一名边锋/攻击型中场加盟之后,球迷群体的情绪自然会有所不同。
Another key factor is that this is yet another Chelsea player. Most players who have traded Stamford Bridge for the Emirates have not set the world alight. The more this trend continues, the more tiresome it becomes. The cost of signing a player from Chelsea also makes it a baffling move to some when other clubs find young, exciting talent abroad more frequently than Arsenal for less.
另一个关键因素是这又是签下一位切尔西球员。大多数从斯坦福桥转会到酋长球场的球员并未取得轰动性的成功。这种趋势持续得越久,就越令人厌倦。从切尔西签下球员的成本也让一些人感到困惑,因为其他俱乐部似乎比阿森纳更频繁地在国外以更低成本找到年轻且有潜力的天才。
Due to the politics of new signings, Arsenal have also seen former Chelsea players take minutes that were previously given to fan favourites, which leaves a sour taste.
由于新援的“政治因素”(指优先使用新援),阿森纳球迷也看到前切尔西球员占用了原本属于球迷宠儿的出场时间,这让人感到不快。
Arsenal fans online seemed to be in unison against this potential signing, but there has since been a swell of support for Madueke. The hashtags on either side of this debate appeared to be light-hearted social media talk at first, but the creation of a petition against Madueke signing is going over the top.
阿森纳球迷在网上似乎一致反对这笔潜在签约,但之后也涌现了对马杜埃凯的支持。这场辩论两边的标签起初看起来像是轻松的社交媒体调侃,但发起反对马杜埃凯签约的请愿书则有些过火了。
That being said, the negative sentiments would not be present in stadiums. For example, Aaron Ramsdale's arrival in 2021 was similarly divisive. Most fans on social media were against the signing, and were vocal about it. On Ramsdale's debut, away against West Bromwich Albion, he was applauded by the travelling support as he came out to warm up pre-match. That is very rare, but you could tell it was a gesture that was appreciated and helped him settle on the pitch.
话虽如此,负面情绪不会出现在球场内。例如,2021年阿隆·拉姆斯代尔的加盟也曾引发类似分歧。当时社交媒体上的大多数球迷都反对这笔签约,并大声表达出来。然而在拉姆斯代尔客场对阵西布罗姆维奇的处子秀中,当他赛前出场热身时,随队出征的球迷却为他鼓掌。这非常罕见,但可以看出这是一个被球员珍视的举动,并帮助他在场上安定下来。
Twomey: Madueke's departure would likely prompt a range of reactions. He is a polarising figure who has had a rollercoaster career at Chelsea, featuring the nadir of very publicly trying to take a penalty away from Palmer against Everton in April 2024 and the peak of a brilliant 14-minute hat-trick against Wolves at Molineux last September.
图米:马杜埃凯的离队可能会引发一系列不同的反应。他是一个充满争议的人物,在切尔西经历了过山车般的职业生涯,低谷是2024年4月对阵埃弗顿时公开试图从帕尔默手中抢罚点球,高峰则是去年9月在莫利纽克斯球场对阵狼队时14分钟内上演的精彩帽子戏法。
Many supporters appreciate a player whose first instinct is always to run at his full-back, particularly within the context of the frustrations some fans feel watching the slow, patient possession Maresca demands. To others, Madueke can be deeply frustrating with his decision-making in the final third, occasionally giving the impression of being out for himself.
许多球迷欣赏一个第一本能总是冲击对方边后卫的球员,尤其考虑到部分球迷观看马雷斯卡要求的缓慢、耐心控球时所感到的沮丧。但对另一些人来说,马杜埃凯在进攻三区的决策能力令人深感沮丧,偶尔给人一种只顾自己表现的印象。
Very few would disagree that he has real talent, and that is where the concern lies. Consistency has eluded Madueke, but his best flashes are tantalising; does he have another level to reach?
很少有人会否认他拥有真正的天赋,而这正是担忧所在。稳定性一直是马杜埃凯所欠缺的,但他最佳时刻的灵光乍现令人神往;他是否还有潜力可挖?
At 23, it remains very possible that he does and if Chelsea decide to sell him now, he will not lack motivation to demonstrate it to them at every opportunity.
23岁的他,依然很有可能达到更高水平。如果切尔西决定现在出售他,他将不乏动力在每一次机会中向他们证明这一点。
Twomey: The success of Chelsea's recruitment model depends just as much on their ability to sell profitably as it does on buying intelligently. Every player who is not absolutely integral to the team Maresca is building has a price, and Madueke has never managed to make himself indispensable at Stamford Bridge.
图米:切尔西引援模式的成败,既取决于他们明智的购买能力,也同等依赖于他们能否成功出售获利。对于马雷斯卡正在打造的球队来说,任何并非绝对核心的球员都有其价格,而马杜埃凯从未能在斯坦福桥证明自己是不可或缺的。
If you are confident he never will, cashing in now and using those funds to make other bets on potential in that position makes sense within the broader Clearlake strategy. Whether it be Estevao, Paez or Quenda, Chelsea already have an abundance of exciting young talent that needs room to grow into the first-team squad in the next two years.
如果你确信他永远无法成为核心,那么在更广泛的清湖资本战略框架内,现在套现并用这笔资金在那个位置上押注其他潜力股是有道理的。无论是埃斯特旺、派斯还是昆达,切尔西已经拥有大量令人兴奋的年轻天才,他们需要在未来两年内获得进入一线队成长的空间。
But it is easy to see a world in which Chelsea and Arsenal could win from this deal. Madueke is a good Premier League winger who, at the very least, could lighten the onerous minutes load on Saka and maybe even work alongside him, depending on how Arteta decides to align things.
但很容易想象一种情况,切尔西和阿森纳都能从这笔交易中受益。马杜埃凯是一名优秀的英超边锋,他至少可以减轻萨卡繁重的出场负担,甚至可能与他并肩作战——这取决于阿尔特塔如何排兵布阵。
It is also possible that Chelsea could regret letting Madueke go --- especially to a Premier League rival --- but as long as they get the price they want, that outcome feels unlikely.
切尔西也有可能后悔放走马杜埃凯——尤其是卖给英超竞争对手——但只要他们得到了想要的价钱,这种结果似乎不太可能出现。
De Roche: It feels like a deal that suits Chelsea more than Arsenal.
德罗什:感觉这笔交易对切尔西比对阿森纳更有利。
They signed Madueke two years ago for £28.5million ($39m at current rates) from PSV and look set to make a decent profit. From their perspective, it is a positive example of how their approach to business works.
他们两年前以2850万英镑从埃因霍温签下马杜埃凯,现在看起来将获得可观的利润。从他们的角度来看,这是其商业运作模式成功的一个正面案例。
For Arsenal fans, his relative youth is a silver lining. The winger scored 11 goals and assisted five in all competitions last season, so there is a body of work on which to develop.
对阿森纳球迷来说,他相对年轻算是一线希望。这位边锋上赛季在所有赛事中打进11球并助攻5次,证明了他具备可发展的基础。
That does feel like more of a punt than a guarantee, however, with Madueke's time at Chelsea littered with glimpses of quality instead of consistent performances.
然而,这感觉更像是一次赌博而非保障,因为马杜埃凯在切尔西的时光充满了灵光乍现而非持续稳定的表现。
赤X的骨头楼主
· 四川说说我的看法: 目前DO没报,就按罗马诺爆料的作为依据,先亮明观点,我觉得马杜埃凯对我厂是很好的补充,但我不理解以这么高的转会费签下他,就像不理解之前以非常高的转会费签下哈弗茨一样,再次重申,对这两个球员我没意见,而是不理解为什么要付出这么大的代价。 我觉得相当诡异的是,明明目前的情况是切尔西有出售球员的压力且同一个位置竞争激烈且球员本人有意愿加盟阿森纳的情况下,我厂是绝对可以拖一拖压压价的,结果就和之前买哈弗茨一样,居然是直接报价50M英镑。这么贵买来是做萨卡的替补吗,那还有钱买主力左边锋吗? 我觉得从技战术和财务的角度都无法解释这件事,同样的事居然发生了两次,我只有猜测阿森纳和切尔西两个美国老板之间是不是有PY交易了。 目前DO还没报道过以50M英镑报价马杜埃凯,希望这不是真的。
北纬零度的海
· 上海结合前两天还爆出新闻说, 阿森纳对球员估价是40M, 双方估值存在差距突然之间就加了10M这么诡吊的操作, 完全背离贝尔塔的行事风格. 有理由相信, 背后有PY交易.